Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] DITA and HTML5

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Mark Giffin <>
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2016-06-27T05:40:03+00:00
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Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] DITA and HTML5
Michael,

      

      On using the is= syntax to base your new element on an existing
      HTML element:

      

      <ol is="simple-steps">

        

      I am almost positive that you cannot put more than one
      value in the is="". I know a couple people who were on the web
      components committee, I can try to get a definitive answer. It's
      probably in the spec somewhere too.

      

      Mark Giffin

      Mark Giffin Consulting, Inc.

      http://markgiffin.com/

      

      On 6/26/2016 5:56 PM, Michael Priestley wrote:

    

    I talked a bit more
        about it with Don,
        and this is where my thinking is right now, based on the
        descriptions of
        custom elements here:

      

      https://www.w3.org/TR/custom-elements/#custom-elements-autonomous-drawbacks

      

      - our two main alternatives are
        autonomous
        custom elements, which we could give custom element names to

      - or customized built-in
        elements, which
        would retain the name of an existing HTML element plus the "is"
        attribute giving a custom element name

      

      Example for autonomous custom
          elements:

      <simple-steps>

             
        <simple-step>...</simple-step>

      </simple-steps>

      

      Pros: 

      - they have easily understandable
        semantic
        names

      - they look like XML, and can
        more closely
        mimic XML specializations

      

      Cons:

      - nothing will happen remotely
        resembling
        fallback processing (like rendering these as an ordered list)
        without a
        bunch of _javascript_

      - for an extended discussion of
        how
        sucky this can be, see https://www.w3.org/TR/custom-elements/#custom-elements-autonomous-drawbacks

      

      Example for customized
          built-in elements

      <ol is="simple-steps">

              <li
        is="simple-step">...</li>

      </ol>

      

      Pros:

      - they process automatically as
        list
        items

      - they can be registered using
        _javascript_
        as special nodes, for extra behavior, but you only need to
        identify the
        delta stuff

      

      Cons:

      - looks less like XML

      

      Net

      

      My clear preference is now for
        customized
        built-in elements, given the warnings of the spec against using
        autonomous
        custom elements when extending an existing element type.

      

      But the open question for me is
        whether
        the "is" attribute can take multiple values. If it can, it could
        map really cleanly to specializations. Even the requirement for
        hyphenation
        in the element name could be a mirror for the "/" in the XML
        class attribute.

      

      Otherwise we'd be looking again
        at limiting
        ourselves to one level of specialization, which may still be on
        the page
        anyway - nobody has said they want it yet.

      

      So... does anyone have a contact
        on
        the Web Platform Working Group? I couldn't find a simple answer
        to my question
        anywhere, including here:

      https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/

      

      If no one else has a contact I'll
        poke
        around IBM.

      

        Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)

        Enterprise Content Technology Strategist