RE: [dita] indexing question

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2006-06-30T00:04:56+00:00
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RE: [dita] indexing question
From: Erik Hennum [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Thursday, 2006 June 29 18:13
To: JoAnn 
  Hackos
Cc: ; Grosso, 
  Paul
Subject: RE: [dita] indexing question

  

  
Hi, Paul and JoAnn:

The prolog is a container for metadata about the 
  topic as a whole and thus doesn't occupy a position of the flow. That is, an 
  index on the prolog applies to the entire topic.  

  
I 
  assume meant "indexterm in" instead of "index on" above, 
  right?

That said, we still need a way to generate a range 
  over the whole topic. 

  
Huh?  I would have thought what you just said in the first 
  paragraph means that an indexterm within the prolog generates a range over the 
  whole topic.  Now I'm really confused.

  
 Last year, we talked about whether an index on a container could 
  generate a range if the container spans more than two pages and rejected that 
  approach.

I don't recall whether we've addressed the question of 
  whether an index range could start in the title or abstract and end at the end 
  of the topic's body or even at the end of the body of the last nested topic. 
  

As a minor point, I wouldn't think it would make sense to include the 
  related links in an index range, given that they don't provide any of the 
  topic content and thus don't cover an index subject.  

  
But if 
  they are part of the topic and you want an index range over the whole topic, 
  it does make sense to include them. 

If we 
  allow index to appear either inside the prolog or before the abstract, do we 
  provide a precedent for for moving other metadata out of the prolog? Do we 
  create confusion by having two places to assert an index on the topic? 

  
Perhaps, but I think indexing is different from other metadata, so this 
  doesn't concern me as much. 

  
paul 

"JoAnn Hackos" 
  <> wrote on 06/29/2006 03:51:27 
  PM:

> I'd like to see Indexterm as a child of topic. It feels 
  awkward to wait
> until prolog.
> JoAnn
> 
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> -----Original 
  Message-----
> From: Grosso, Paul [mailto:] 
> Sent: 
  Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:26 PM
> To: 
> 
  Subject: [dita] indexing question
> 
> Looking at the 1.1 DTDs, as 
  far as I can tell,
> indexterm isn't allowed as a child of 
  topic.
> In fact, the earliest indexterm is allowed
> in a topic 
  seems to be within keywords within 
> metadata within prolog.
> 
  
> Suppose one wants to use index-range-start and
> 
  index-range-end to index an entire topic.  It
> seems the soonest 
  one can put the index-range-start
> in a topic is within the prolog. 
   But suppose one
> has an abstract longer than a page.  Then 
  the
> index-range-start within the prolog (which follows
> the 
  abstract) will not pick up the first page of
> the topic.
> 
  
> This seems to be a problem.  Do we need to allow
> 
  indexterm in title, perhaps?  Is there a better
> solution?
> 
  
> I think we are also going to have a similar problem
> at the 
  bottom of a topic.  Suppose the last thing
> in your topic is 
  related-links.  Where can you put
> the index-range-end so that you 
  can be sure it is
> on the last page of the topic?
> 
> 
  paul
> 
>