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        Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC

Tuesday 9 October 2012

Recorded by Tom Magliery

Regrets:  Don Day, Michael Boses, Nancy Harrison, Jim Tivy, Seth Park, Dick Hamilton, JoAnn Hackos, Robert Anderson, Michael Priestley 

Attendance: Met quorum (just barely)

Standing Business

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Minutes from last week

Motion to accept: Kris E

2nd: Adrian W

Approved by acclamation

No subcommittee reports this week

Business items

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1. DITA 1.3 Stage 2 proposals ready for vote: 

Proposal 13117 - Allow  within  (Kimber)

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/47025/proposal-13117.html

Voting by members present:

Deb B: yes

Thilo B: yes

Stan D: yes

Kris E: yes

David H: yes

Eliot K: yes

Tom M: yes

Chris N: yes

Adrian W: yes

100% yes votes, proposal moves forward to Stage 3

2. Discussion of Stage 2 proposals:

Discussion on proposal 13111 - Official domain for MathML (Kimber)

Eliot: What tag name to use for container - suggested a couple of alternatives for "mathml_container" as currently mentioned in proposal, seeking discussion

Autumn: Common practice is "mathml"

Adrian: Wondering what happens if generated HTML is not supported by the supported browser

Eliot: (Explanation)

Eliot: This really enables delivery of MathML in DITA source, and provides more options depending on processing available 

Not putting any constraints on how MathML should be viewed, just making a nice way to include MathML on the DITA side

Thilo: For the name, suggest something semantically meaningful e.g. math_formula

Eliot: This is more to explicitly contain MathML (as opposed to being just "math" in any form, such as alternatives LaTeX etc.). Proposal is not meant to provide a general way to include mathematics.

Kris: Where would this vocab module go? Base?

Eliot: Base ... it's broadly applicable

Thilo: Any need to coordinate with MathML committee?

Eliot: No need for active coordination except tracking.

Autumn: Note MathML is maintained by W3C, it's pretty stable right now, Design Science is involved.

Tom: Is name "mathml" commonly used already? If so it might make sense to use that to save users having to update instance docs.

Autumn: Yes, a number of companies are already using Design Science's specialization that uses that name.

Summary: 

Seems as if we have consensus to make the element name "mathml".

Proposal will move on to voting next week.

ACTION ITEM

Kris: Modify Stage 2 proposal template to add a section for mentioning where the new proposal would be integrated into the DTDs.

Discussion on Proposal 13011 - adding line-through and overline elements to highlight domain (Kimber)

Eliot: Q: text-decoration property in CSS also has "blink" and "none" -- what to do about this

gave rationale for leaving them out

wants confirmation as to whether this is OK

Kris: Sounds like a good idea to me

Scott: Another "sounds good" voice

Summary:

Proposal will move on to voting next week.

Discussion on Proposal 13035 - adding "xml mention" domain for marking up mentions of XML syntactic components (Kimber)

Tom: Where did the tag names come from?

Eliot: Some from XML spec, some "obvious", intended to be concise as possible, open to suggestions

[no other opinions forthcoming]

Kris: What part of spec?

Eliot: Base

Kris: Do we have to have the element names nailed down now in Stage 2?

Eliot: Probably not

Deb: Include semicolons on the "suggested renditions" for entities?

Eliot: Semicolon not technically part of the name, it's a separator so not strictly necessary

Summary:

Eliot to look at the one TBD remaining in the proposal

Probably ready for vote as soon as the TBD is fixed

ACTION ITEM: Tom to send email to [dita-users] asking if anyone has concern about tag names

Discussion on Proposal 13044 - allow elements within %basic.ph; within 

Tom: No personal objection, but could imagine someone having an objection based on the reason  was originally constrained. Do we know the reason?

Eliot, Kris: recollection that original definition of  was only a reflection of IBM practice and that they would have no objection to relaxing this constraint

Scott: Maybe it was because  was never expected to be rendered

Summary:

Proposal will move on to voting next week.

Discussion on proposal 13118 - adding Ruby domain

Eliot: domain would be added to base

Scott(?): Reason not a  container?

Eliot: Would not add anything in this case. Better to simply use tag names that match HTML names. This just adds 4 new elements to DITA.

Ran out of time and will continue discussion on this proposal at the next meeting.

Meeting adjourned at 10:00am Pacific time.
        

-- Mr. Tom Magliery
        
    

    
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