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Re: SV: [ebcore] Groups - cppa3-specification uploaded

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Pim van der Eijk <>
Date
2017-05-03T09:27:31+00:00
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Re: SV: [ebcore] Groups - cppa3-specification uploaded
Hi,

    
OK thanks for the information, the new schema should be able to
      handle this. I will elaborate in the longer reply I intend to send
      later this week.

    
Kind Regards,

    
Pim

    

    

    
On 03-05-17 11:19, Berntzen, Sigbjørn
      wrote:

    

    
      
      
      
      
      

        
Hi

        
 

        
I just want to add that in the Norwegian health
            sector we are about to start using the packaging from CPP so
            that a Doctor sending a message to another Doctor somewhere
            in Norway can check beforehand to find out which versions of
            an XML Document the intended recipient understands and
            create the best version that the recipient can receive. 
            

        
Today such information is unavailable so the
            sender defaults to the oldest version the sender can create.

        
 

        

          
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Fra:
                Pim van der Eijk [mailto:]
                

                Sendt: 3. mai 2017 10:09

                Til: Yngve Pettersen;
                

                Kopi:
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                Emne: Re: [ebcore] Groups - cppa3-specification
                uploaded

          

        

        
 

        
 

        
Hi Yngve,

        
Many thanks for your email and it's not too late at all, 
          perfect timing instead.

        
I will reply to your points later this week.  Please let me
          know if it's OK if I forward your email to the public ebcore
          tc or comment list?

        
Kind Regards,

        
Pim

        
 

        

          
On 03-05-17 08:55, Yngve Pettersen wrote:

        

        
          
Hi Pim!

          
Sorry for late feedback, and hope it's not
              too late
            J

          
 

          
Regarding the CPPA3, I have not be able to
              read the spec in detail but as far I can see there are
              some good things.

          
Ithink the new ServiceSpecification is fine.
              It's very nice to be able to build up the complete process
              in the CPP or CPA and show which message following the
              others. CPPA2 was difficult to follow with
              CanSend/CanReceive.

          
It's also good to see that we can state the
              counterpart role. This will really help.

          
 

          
But…

          
Why changing the Packaging? In CPPA2 you
              could explain in detail how a file should be packed,
              encrypted and zipped, and also the which version of
              message that was used. This is a large step backwards I
              think.

          
And…why change almost all tags? It's will be
              more difficult to acquire CPPA3 if you are familiar with
              CPPA2 because of the new structure, look complete new and
              strange for me.

          
I'm also concerned about the security and how
              we state the certificate details. But as I said, I have
              not read this spec in detail and had not time to compare
              with CPPA2 on this issue so it might be ok.

          
 

          
 

          
 

          
Med
              vennlig hilsen / Best regards

          
 

          
Yngve
              Pettersen

          
Seniorrådgiver
              / Senior adviser

          
Mobile
              (+47) 950 85 477

          
 

          

          
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              og kan bidra til økt lønnsomhet gjennom forenkling og
              automatisering av forretningsprosesser.

          
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              deltar også i samarbeidetOverhuset (www.overhuset.no)
              som samler Norges skarpeste konsulentmiljøer i IT-bransjen
              i et felles nettverk, og under et felles varemerke.

          
 

          
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From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:]
                  

                  Sent: 3. april 2017 08.27

                  To: Yngve Pettersen <>

                  Subject: Re: [ebcore] Groups -
                  cppa3-specification uploaded

            

          

          
 

          
 

          
Hi Yngve,

          
Great,  you can download all documents from https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=ebcore&show_descriptions=yes.

          
Any comments you can post formally via https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=ebcore
            or informally to me directly.

          
Best regards.

          
Pim

          
On 03-04-17 08:22, Yngve Pettersen wrote:

            

            

            

          
            
Hi Pim!

            
How are you?

            
 

            
I'm always interested in CPP and CPA,
                hehe..
              J

            
FYI, at the moment I'm out of the Norwegian
                Directorate of eHealth…for some time since my contract
                was out in the end of 2016. 

            
But I will look at it and give you my
                feedback.

            
 

            
 

            
Med
                vennlig hilsen / Best regards

            
 

            
Yngve
                Pettersen

            
Seniorrådgiver
                / Senior adviser

            
Mobile
                (+47) 950 85 477

            
 

            

            
Havnelageret

            
Langkaia
                1

            
NO-0150
                OSLO

            
Tel:
                (+47) 22 42 13 80

            
Fax:
                (+47) 22 42 26 40

            
www.edisys.no

            
 

            
Edisys
                  Consulting AS
                harNorges ledende fagmiljø innen elektronisk samhandling
                og kan bidra til økt lønnsomhet gjennom forenkling og
                automatisering av forretningsprosesser.

            
Vi
                deltar også i samarbeidetOverhuset (www.overhuset.no)
                som samler Norges skarpeste konsulentmiljøer i
                IT-bransjen i et felles nettverk, og under et felles
                varemerke.

            
 

            
P
              Please consider the environment before
                printing this email

            
 

            
 

            
 

            

              

                
From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:]
                    

                    Sent: 2. april 2017 15.48

                    To: Yngve Pettersen <>

                    Subject: Fwd: [ebcore] Groups -
                    cppa3-specification uploaded

              

            

            
 

            
 

            
Hi Yngve,

            
Not sure if your email address still works,  and/or you
              are still interested in CPA.   We talked/emailed about it
              in the past.

            
After many years, I'm trying to finalize a CPPA3 that has
              all the modernization and extensions needed for current
              protocols.

            
If you have time to review it and provide some feedback, 
              that would be much appreciated.

            
Kind Regards,

            
Pim

            

              

                

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[ebcore] Groups -
                        cppa3-specification uploaded

                    
                  

                  

                    
                      
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                Submitter's message

                Schema #15 (2017-03-27) and #16 (2017-04-02):

                - New chapter 2.3.4 on schema extensibility.

                - Description of IPv4 and IPv6 support features and
                related constraints in unification in new section
                3.4.16.

                - “Certification Authority”, naming consistency.

                - “Content Coding” support for HTTP.

                - “HTTP Version” support for HTTP.

                - Editorial.

                - Fixed some missing coverage of elements in 3.4.2.

                - Added bibliographic entries for FTP and SMTP RFCs and
                MTOM and XOP W3C Recommendations.
                

                -- Mr. Pim van der Eijk 

              
                
                  

                    
                      
Document
                            Name:
                          cppa3-specification

                      

                        

                          
                            
                          

                      

                      
Description

                          Specification (in ODF) of the CPPA3 schema and
                          unification method. Also

                          includes some XML samples. 

                          Download
                            Latest Revision

                          Public
                            Download Link

                      

                        

                          
                            
                          

                      

                      
Submitter:
                          Mr. Pim van der Eijk

                          Group:
                          OASIS ebXML Core (ebCore) TC

                          Folder:
                          Contributions

                          Date
                              submitted: 2017-04-02
                          05:07:56

                          Revision:
                          5
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