Re: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS specificationtorealbusiness

Title: RE: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS specification torealbusiness

Dear Dick Brooks,

Thank you very much for your 
information.

Please send me a copy of the specification 
used by ERCOT.

Best Regards,

Yukinori Saito

  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Dick Brooks 
  

  
To: Martin W Sachs ; Brooks, Dick 

  
Cc:  
  

  
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:42 
  AM

  
Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Question 
  about imprementation of MS specification torealbusiness

  

  
Marty,

  
 

  
The 
  ebXML based protocol specification used by ERCOT is not available on a public 
  web site. I will be happy to provide you (and others) with a copy of it 
  privately.

  
 

  
Regards,

  
Dick Brooks
Systrends, Inc
7855 South River Parkway, 
  Suite 111
Tempe, Arizona 85284
Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com>
Phone:480.756.6777,Mobile:205-790-1542,eFax:240-352-0714
  
  

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs 
    [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:17 
    AM
To: Brooks, Dick
Cc: ; 
    NEC\)?E "g?l <m-iha
Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Question about 
    imprementation of MS specification torealbusiness

    
Dick, 

    
The page that the ERCOT URL in your email points to says 
    nothing about use 
of ebXML MS, and there is not an 
    obvious link on that page that would point 
to the 
    ebXML information.  Can you provide another referece to the ebXML 
    MS 
info? 

    
Regards, 
Marty 

    
************************************************************************************* 
    

    
Martin W. Sachs 
IBM T. J. Watson 
    Research Center 
P. O. B. 704 
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598 
914-784-7287;  
    IBM tie line 863-7287 
Notes address:  Martin W 
    Sachs/Watson/IBM 
Internet address:  mwsachs @ 
    us.ibm.com 
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    Dick 
    Brooks                                                                                            
    

    
                      
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    Subject:  RE: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS 
    specification   

    
                      
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Yukinori Saito, 

    
The organization that runs one of the largest Electric Grids 
    in the United 
States (ERCOT - http://www.ercot.com/), is replacing FTP 
    with an ebXML MS 
B2B solution. The ebXML software 
    has recently passed ERCOT certification 
testing and 
    is moving into production operation. FTP is scheduled to be 
completely eliminated by the end of 2002. 

    
You can find more information about the FTP Replacement 
    Project and the 
ebXML MS solution used by ERCOT 
    at: 
http://www.ercot.com/Participants/FTPReplacement/index.htm 
    

    
The FTP Replacement Project/ebXML solution has been 
    presented 
as a case study for implementing ebXML 
    within the Energy industry to 
representatives from 
    the following European and North American Energy 
organizations: 
EFET - http://www.efet.org/ 
ETSO - http://www.etso-net.org/ 
    
EURELECTRIC - http://www.eurelectric.org/ 
    
NAESB - http://www.naesb.org/ 
UIG - http://www.uig.org/ 
    

    
NOTE: UIG has a liaison relationship with the Federation of 
    Electric Power 
Companies (FEPC) E3 group in 
    Japan. 
http://www.fepc.or.jp/english/fepc.html 
    

    
There are currently discussions underway to form a 
    collaborative 
European/North American effort to 
    define B2B standards around ebXML. Feel 
free to 
    e-mail me privately if you would like more information about this 
    
initiative. 

    
Dick Brooks 
Systrends, Inc 
    
7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111 
Tempe, Arizona 85284 
Web: www.systrends.com 
    <http://www.systrends.com> 
    
Phone:480.756.6777,Mobile:205-790-1542,eFax:240-352-0714 
    

    
      -----Original 
    Message----- 
      From: 
    Yukinori Saito [mailto:] 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:59 
    AM 
      To: 
     
      Cc: NEC\)$B0KGHMM(B; EDIgr)H.Sugamata; 
    EDIgr)K.Mizoguchi; 
      
    EDIgr)K.Wakaizumi 
      
    Subject: [ebxml-msg] Question about imprementation of MS 
      specification to realbusiness 
    

    
      Dear Members of OASIS ebXML 
    Messaging TC, 

    
      Kasumi Co. Ltd. in Japan 
    developed B2B system based on ebXML MS 
      specification V1.0. 
      The outline of this system is 
    followings. 
      (1) This 
    system is EDI system between Retail and Maker. 
      (2) This system is developed by NEC 
    corporation. NEC corporation is 
      very 
      famous IT vendor company in 
    Japan. 
      (3) Business 
    documents 
      -Retail: 
    Purchase Order Prediction, Sales Information 
      -Maker: Products Information, Sales 
    Promotion Information, Sales 
      Results 
      (4) Reasons to adopt ebXML MS 
    specification 
      -This 
    project recognized that ebXML will become an international 
      standard. 
      -GCI (Global Commerce Initiative) 
    announced that GCI will adopt ebXML 

    
      specification. 
    
      (5) Scope of adoption of MS 
    specification in this system 
      -This system avoided vague part of MS 
    specification V1.0. As a 
      result, this 
      system adopted same parts that is 
    equivalent to  Core Extension of 
      ebXML MS 
      V2.0. The engineer of NEC corporation 
    says it is appropriate that the 
      MS 
      V2.0 specification is divided to Core 
    Extension and Options. 
      -Adopted asynchronous communication 
    method to have flexibility of 
      messaging 
      handling. 
      -Devised and designed error handling 
    procedures about errors of 
      payloads. 
      (6) Next step 
      -Studying to upgrade to MS 
    V2.0. 
      -Studying to 
    adopt CPA. Because there is close relationship between 
      MS 
      specification and CPPA 
    specification. 
      But 
    the designer is thinking that there is no need to adopt CPP, 
    
      because 
      they know all companies very much each 
    other. This system will 
      develop one 
      common CPA in these EDI system. 
    
      (7) This system is actually 
    operating now as real business. This 
      system has 
      started real operation from November 
    2001. This system is the first 
      case 
      that adopted ebXML MS specification to 
    real business in Japan and in 
      Asia 
      region. 

    
      Questions, 
      Does anyone has some information about 
    following point? 
      -Is 
    this system the first case that adopted MS specification to real 
    
      business in the 
    world? 
      -If anyone has 
    some information that some companies or industries 
      adopted MS 
      specification in real business in West 
    countries, please let me know. 

    
      -If anyone has information 
    about these, please let me know. 

    
      Best Regards, 
    
      Yukinori Saito 
    
      
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      Yukinori Saito 
      Electronic Commerce Promotion Council 
    of Japan (ECOM) 
      
    E-mail:  
      Tel: +81-3-3436-7542    
    Fax: +81-3-3436-7570 
      
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