RE: [ebxml-msg] Some ebms-level routing use cases?

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Durand, Jacques R. <>
Date
2008-03-13T18:38:43+00:00
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RE: [ebxml-msg] Some ebms-level routing use cases?
I suggest we use the network-level definition of 
"addressable", which is used in other WS-*:

Addressable = having an IP address AND able to receive 
incoming requests from remote partners (e.g. through 
firewall)

 

- When HTTP is used, that means running an HTTP server able 
to receive HTTP requests.

- for ebMS, that means 
ability to be the destination of One-way / Push 
MEPs.

- a non-addressable ebMS endpoint means then it can 
receive messages only by pulling them (or when bound to HTTP 
responses)

 

Jacques

 

From: Sander Fieten 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:52 
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[ebxml-msg] Some ebms-level routing use cases?

Pim,

I'm wondering about the communication constraint you mention. As you write 
under topology the intermediaries can identify endpoints based on PartyId, so 
the endpoints are addressable. 

Furthermore I think they also support the two-way push MEP beside two-way 
push/pull MEP.

Regards

Sander

On 12 mrt 2008, at 09:59, Pim van der Eijk wrote:

  

  
 

  

  
General 
  business-level description:

  
- A particular set of government services and processez is provided by 
  agencies in different sectors reporting to different ministries, that have 
  their own (very large) private networks.  Dozens of MSHs in various 
  sectors, with some MSHs serving dozens or hundreds of parties.  In total 
  a few thousand parties. 
  

  
 

  
Topology: 

  
- Within a sector, agencies communicate via an 
  intermediary. There is never any Endpoint to Endpoint communication. The 
  intermediary is also the connection to agencies in other sectors (via 
  their sector intermediary).  Each intermediary knows whether the 
  addressed To/PartyId is connected to itself (two hops) or is connected to some 
  other sector hub (more than two hops). 
  

  
 

  

  
Routing 
  function:

  

  
- some intermediaries are also Endpoints (sector hubs, hosting sector 
  services).  They inspect the eb:Service to determine if they 
  provide this service themselves (possibly on behalf of many different 
  organizations), or need to forward the message to a separate 
  MSH. 
- when (not delivering locally but) forwarding, 
  forwarding is based on ebMS header content: eb:To/eb:PartyId.   

  
 

  
Communication 
  constraints:

  
- Branches are not 
  addressable. Can only push, or pull. The branches only use One-way / Push MEPs 
  for invoking the servers. Need to pull the "Signals".

  
 

  

  
Evolution 
  profile:

  
- Sometimes a business partner is first connected as an 
  Endpoint to an intermediary, then later a Intermediary is inserted. This 
  should not require any changes at the Endpoints other than changing the URL 
  and TLS details. 
  An intermediary should 
  not have to know if the MSH it is connecting to is the Endpoint for the 
  message, or an Intermediary that forwards it. 
  

  
- PartyIds may move from one Endpoint MSH to another. 
  Only the closest intermediary should have to take action to account for that 
  change. No other intermediary or Endpoint should need to know (as they will 
  still receive messages from, and send to, the same 
  intermediary).

  
- Some intermediaries are also