Re: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in healthcare funding.

Ed,

 

A possible translation reads - 

 

XBRL is a financial reporting and accounting 
system.  

 

It makes extensive use of referential links 
akin

to using codelists in traditional EDI, but 
more

complex.  Reporting categories and 

classifications are also supported.

 

These are implemented using XLink 
mechanisms.

 

This allows users to indicate what 
amounts

actually represent relative to the acounting 
process

and give an indication of how they were obtained 

arithmetically.

 

Sarbanes-Oxley is one heavy use area in the 
USA.

 

DW

 

 

  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Ed Chase 

  
To: Chiusano Joseph 

  
Cc: Burg, HJM (Harm Jan) van (INNOVATIE) ; 
  David Webber (XML) 
  ;  ; Brett Trusko ;  ; eGov 
  OASIS 

  
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:54 
  AM

  
Subject: Re: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] 
  US Bill to sponsor interoperability in healthcare funding.

  

Hi Joe,

There 
  might be a bit of "semantic conflict" here :-) 
  

"taxonomies" in XBRL are a bit different from what 
  you're probably thinking of in relation to the FEA & DRM. XBRL taxonomies 
  are somewhat specific to the XBRL world. They are financial concept reporting 
  vocabularies based on the XBRL framework. They are more grounded in specific 
  technology than the more typical conceptual "taxonomy". XBRL taxonomies are 
  actual sets of XML and XSD files. They tend to be geo-political or 
  domain-based vocabularies and are often extended/narrowed for specific 
  industries or sub-domains.

Just FYI - XBRL does not follow typical XML 
  language construction  - it's quite unique.

Here are some good 
  references:

http://www.xbrl.org/WhatIsXBRL/
http://www.gca.org/papers/xmleurope2000/papers/s26-01.html
http://www.kpmg.com/xbrl/XBRL_Home.asp

Best 
  regards,

Ed
-- 

  
Ed 
  Chase
Standards Engineer
Adobe Systems, Inc.

703.883.2830

Chiusano 
  Joseph wrote:

  
    
    

    

    
Harm,

    
 

    
Your mention of the first national XBRL 
    taxonomy in the Netherlands is very interesting, and would be beneficial for 
    us to know in the US as we are in the midst of a very large governmentwide 
    initiative called the Data Reference Model (DRM[1]), which is part of the 
    Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). One of the DRM's 3 primary areas is 
    Data Context, which involves taxonomies.

    
 

    
Can you please send information to this 
    list (the E-Gov TC list) regarding the XBRL taxonomy?

    
 

    
Thanks very much,

    
Joe Chiusano

    
 

    
[1] http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2005-06-20-a.html

    

    
    From: Burg, HJM (Harm Jan) van (INNOVATIE) 
    [mailto:]
Sent: 
    Thu 6/23/2005 8:49 AM
To: 'David Webber (XML)'; ; 'Brett Trusko'; 
    Chiusano Joseph; ; 'eGov 
    OASIS'
Subject: RE: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor 
    interoperability in healthcare funding.

    

    
I 
    see this group is in a desperate need for a face to face meeting with some 
    spare time at the bar. No lack of subjects there.

    
 

    
Harm jan van Burg

    
 

    
not wanting to kill any discussion, by the way.

    
Sorry for the lack of e-mails from my part. I had the introduction of 
    the first national XBRL taxonomy overhere, a trip abroad and day's with not 
    enough hours. I will come back to the list with some ideas one of these 
    days

    
      
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: David 
      Webber (XML) [mailto:] 
      
Verzonden: woensdag 22 juni 2005 2:28
Aan: ; 'Brett Trusko'; 
      'Chiusano Joseph'; ; 'eGov 
      OASIS'
Onderwerp: Re: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to 
      sponsor interoperability in healthcare funding.

      
Peter,

      
 

      
Remember the tobacco industry - and a row of 
      company executives entoning before Congress - 'Nicotine is not 
      addictive'?

      
 

      
If you have not already seen it - check out 
      the DVD "Supersize Me!", and notice how he became to crave eating the fat 
      and sugar laden food that was making him ill - and felt a high when he 
      did.

      
 

      
Then ask yourself - why are 60% percent of 
      Americans clinically overweight, and for some minorities this reaches over 
      80% for members over the age of 30?  Target - lower income brackets - 
      mass market.

      
 

      
50% of Americans used to smoke, with higher 
      majority in the low-income, lesser educated.  

      
 

      
Errrr, Kimosabi, is there some correlation 
      here?

      

      
 

      
Just what additives are going into processed 
      food - and what are we not being told?

      
 

      
DW

      
        
----- 
        Original Message ----- 

        
From: 
        Peter F 
        Brown 

        
To: 
        'David Webber 
        (XML)' ; 'Brett Trusko' ; 'Chiusano Joseph' ;  ; 'eGov OASIS' 

        
Sent: 
        Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:33 PM

        
Subject: 
        RE: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in 
        healthcare funding.

        

        
That would be "nationwide unhealthy service", no? 
        or are you really suggesting a national policy? The food giants actually 
        working with government in formulating unhealthy policy? Surely 
        not....

        

        
        From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:] 
        
Sent: 21 June 2005 19:25
To: Brett Trusko; ; 'Chiusano 
        Joseph'; ; 
        'eGov OASIS'
Subject: Re: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill 
        to sponsor interoperability in healthcare funding.

        
But some would argue that the US has the 
        worlds finest National Unhealthy services - and that

        
giant corporations are toiling night and 
        day to ensure citizen remain unhealthy so they

        
can exploit the situation for 
        profit.

        
 

        
Self-maintenance can obviously save you a 
        bunch of money here....

        
 

        

        
; -)

        
 

        
DW

        
          
----- 
          Original Message ----- 

          
From: 
          Brett Trusko 

          
To: 
           ; 'Chiusano Joseph' ;  ; 
          'eGov OASIS' 

          
Sent: 
          Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:24 AM

          
Subject: 
          RE: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in 
          healthcare funding.

          

          

          
Ahhhh - the 
          "best answer yet" award goes to Peter Brown

          
 

          

          

          
          

          
From: 
          Peter F Brown [mailto:] 
          
Sent: Thursday, June 
          16, 2005 3:23 PM
To: 
          'Chiusano Joseph'; 'Brett Trusko'; ; 
          'eGov OASIS'
Subject: 
          RE: [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in 
          healthcare funding.

          
 

          
Doesn't want 
          to imply...that the US has a national (read "public", certainly in 
          Europe) health service? rather than a nationwide health 
          service...

          
 

          
-Peter

          
 

          

          
          

          
From: 
          Chiusano Joseph [mailto:] 
          
Sent: 15 June 2005 
          04:54
To: Brett 
          Trusko; ; 
          eGov OASIS
Subject: 
          [egov] RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in 
          healthcare funding.

          

          

          
Hi 
          Brett,

          

          
 

          

          
I believe it may simply be 
          a matter of semantics. The person who made the statement (or as I 
          understand the statement to mean) was Mary Forbes. She said that the 
          name change was made because they did not want to imply ______ (and 
          it's that blank that I don't recall).

          

          
 

          

          
Hope that helps - at least 
          a bit.

          

          
 

          

          
Joe

          

          

          
          

          

          
From: 
          Brett Trusko [mailto:]
Sent: Tue 6/14/2005 10:43 
          PM
To: Chiusano 
          Joseph; ; 
          'eGov OASIS'
Subject: 
          RE: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability in healthcare 
          funding.

          

          
Hi Joe, I suppose that change 
          means something, but I don't know what it 
          is?

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: Chiusano 
          Joseph [mailto:]
Sent: 
          Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:04 AM
To: ; 
          eGov OASIS
Subject: [ihc] RE: [egov] US Bill to sponsor 
          interoperability in healthcare
funding.

I understand from 
          yesterday's Data Reference Model (DRM) Public Forum
that the 
          National Health Information Network is now going to be referred
to 
          as the Nationwide Health Information Network.

Joe

Joseph 
          Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com

> 
          -----Original Message-----
> From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:]
> 
          Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM
> To: ; 
          eGov OASIS
> Subject: [egov] US Bill to sponsor interoperability 
          in
> healthcare funding.
>
> FYI - this obviously 
          would be very good for OASIS specifications.
>
> 
          DW
>
> (June 13, 2005) The federal government would 
          provide $250
> million in grants--and another $250 million in 
          loans--in each
> fiscal year from 2006 through 2011 to support 
          development of
> a national health information network under 
          legislation
> introduced in the Senate. Grant recipients would 
          be required
> to provide matching funds of at least 20%.
> 
          Senate Bill 1223 from Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) also
> 
          would authorize the government to adopt standards that
> promote 
          interoperability of information systems within two
> years of 
          adoption.
>
> The legislation further would create the 
          Office of Health
> Information Technology within the executive 
          office of the
> president. Duties of the office would be similar 
          to those of
> the Office of the National Coordinator for Health 
          Information
> Technology within the Department of Health and 
          Human Services.
>
> The bill has been referred to the 
          Senate Health, Education,
> Labor and Pensions Committee. Full 
          text is available at
> http://thomas.loc.gov.
>
> 
          More legislation to promote development of a national health
> 
          information network is expected from Sens. Olympia Snowe
> 
          (R-Maine) and Debbie Stabenow (R-Mich.), and Majority Leader
> 
          William Frist (R-Tenn.) and Hillary Clinton 
          (D-N.Y.).
>
>
>
> 
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