Re: [legalcite-markup-discuss] Cross-walks to existing database systems

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Chet Ensign <>
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Re: [legalcite-markup-discuss] Cross-walks to existing database systems
>> Another omission from the charter is discovery, reporting and mapping
between existing legal metadata database holdings. 

There was discussion of that in earlier conversations - my take is that our work should support those use cases / business needs but we shouldn't try to propose how it should be done. 
>> It is unreasonable to think that existing metadata databases will
covert their legacy (from a legalcite viewpoint) data into the model
produced by the proposed TC, 

I agree - looking at their needs / structures strikes me as an important part of the process of developing a standard 

>> A journey into the sea of legal citations ... Perhaps it's age but setting out in a small boat

I love the sailing analogy... 

>> PS: I can suggest some formal charter language if that would be helpful.

Please do - that would help focus the discussion. 

/chet

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Patrick Durusau <> wrote:

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Greetings!

One post spawns another! ;-)

While writing about the need to hold the metadata separate from a

citation in a text, it occurred to me that there are already databases

in existence now that hold such data.

Those would be in addition to the legal markup systems I asked about

yesterday, which are not mentioned as being candidates for mappings

between legalcite TC markup and their markup in the charter.

Another omission from the charter is discovery, reporting and mapping

between existing legal metadata database holdings.

It is unreasonable to think that existing metadata databases will

covert their legacy (from a legalcite viewpoint) data into the model

produced by the proposed TC, unless by some happy accident the TC

happens to duplicate their data model.

Additional items that should be explicitly included in the charter:

1) Mapping (or Crosswalk) between legalcite TC markup and at a

minimum, the highly visible legal markup systems cited in the charter, and

2) Mapping (or Crosswalk) between legalcite TC data model and existing

legal metadata data models, where available.

A journey into the sea of legal citations is more likely to end

pleasantly if we can build a large boat (induce many of the highly

visible systems to participate in the TC) and secure our boat to other

boats (mappings/crosswalks to other systems and metadata databases).

Perhaps it's age but setting out in a small boat, even with skilled

and adventurous colleagues, where a successful journey depends upon

others replacing their views with our own, isn't as attractive as it

might have been, once upon a time.

Please respond on list.

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Patrick

PS: I can suggest some formal charter language if that would be helpful.

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Patrick Durusau



Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)

Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34

Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)

Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300

Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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