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Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Minutes of our November 5th telephoneconference call




From: John Greacen <>
To: 'Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee'<>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:39:50 -0700














Here are Dr. Leff’s
minutes of the last conference call.  Our procedure is that the decisions made
in the call are deemed ratified by all members of the Technical Committee
unless a member objects to a decision on the list.  Please review the minutes
with this process in mind.

 

                Minutes
Teleconference of November 5th

 

The OASIS Legal XML Member
Section Electronic Court Filing Technical Committee

 

Present

 

Donald Bergeron

Rolly Chambers

Tom Clarke

Shane Durham 

Charles Gilliam

Robin Gibson

John Greacen

Daniel Greenwood

James Keane

Catherine Krause

Laurence Leff

Diane Lewis

John Messing,

Mary McQueen

Robert O'Brien

Dallas
Powell

Tony Rutkowski

Roger Winters

 

John Greacen called the
official Teleconference to order.

 

Note: Hereinafter I will
refer to the minutes of the meeting October 4th and 

5th 2002 in Boston
as the "Boston
minutes."

 

Dallas Powell announced that
the State of Utah
will provide an 

interoperability test of the
Court Filing 1.1 Specification.  (Note, the 

meetings of the October 3rd
Face-to-Face indicated that Mr. Greacen would 

determine whether they would
be involved in an interoperability test.)

 

There were no comments on
the minutes of the Boston Meeting.  They are approved.

 

(Hereafter, the phrase
"Joint Technology Committee"

includes the National
Consortium for State Court Automation Standards, 

a subcommittee of the Joint
Technology Committee of the Conference of State 

Court Administrators (COSCA)
and National Association for Court Management 

(NACM))  

 

John Greacen said that
Query&Response and Court Document 1.1 will be be 

transmitted to the Joint
Technology Committee since there were no comments 

by the deadline.  Mr. Roger
Winters will put this in the appropriate template, 

but Mr. Greacen will
transmit them in their current format due to the time 

pressures to get the
document to that committee.

 

 

Ms. McQueen reported that
she had telephone discussion with Bill Vickrey, Administrative Director of the
California Courts, expressing concerns about California's
decision to develop its own XML standards. Mr. Vickrey agreed to look into the
matter.  Ms. McQueen has not heard back from him.  

 

Christopher Smith,
representative to the Technical Committee from California,
stated in an electronic mail to Mr. Greacen that any Legal XML 

member is welcome to
participate in the California
specifications development effort as an Observer.  Mr. Greacen has been in in
contact with Tom Smith about the Intellectual Property terms of the California
project.  We have been told that the terms posted on the California
website are under review.

 

Mr. Rolly Chambers said he will
post to the list his current version of a list of roles.  (This was part of the
work on the 

schema for criminal justice
for the Justice XML Data Dictionary Schema Tax Force (JXDDS) sponsored by the
Georgia Tech Research Institute (GTRI) See the Boston Minutes.)

 

Mr. Dallas Powell discussed
his document:

EFC 1.1 Conformance levels
for Interoperability testing and issues at 

each level.  

(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-courtfiling/200210/doc00010.doc)

 

In that document, he posited
five levels:

1)    Basic validation

2)    Communication layer

3)    Required elements for
case initiation and case updates 

4)    Required elements for
filing fees

5)    Security Model 

 

The group decided that
levels one and two would be collapsed while 

levels three through five
would remain separate.

 

The Court Filing 1.1 has a
documentContent element in which the content of the document is attached,
encoded in Base64, known as the "blob." The Technical Committee also
decided that would not to require these interoperability tests to see if the
software will handle correctly an XML document being sent as the blob.

 

Mr. Powell will forward a
revised copy of the document to the list.

 

John Messing announced that
the ABA electronic filing committee
that he chairs will meet on the evening of December 10th in Las
  Vegas and that all 

members of the Court Filing
Technical Committee are invited

to that meeting.  Ms.
McQueen pointed out that the issue of authentication is an important one to
consider in court filing; chief judges and 

court administrators are
particularly concerned.  

 

Mr. Shane Durham discussed
versioning rules for Technical Committee specifications.  He recommended a
three-level version numbering scheme.  Changes to the first number would
indicate non-compatibility with prior versions.  Changes to the second number
would indicate that the newer version would parse prior versions, but not vice
versa.  Changes to the third number would reflect insignificant changes, such
as adding content to replace holder other changes 

that do not reflect a change
in the XML.  A trivial example would be adding a space or comment to the DTD. 
Ms. Robin Gibson pointed out that some documents may not reflect this new rule
and their version numbers will NOT be updated.  

 

Mr. Durham will write this
up, Mr. Winters will edit, and it will be sent to the list.  

 

Ms. Gibson, our liaison to
JXDDS, gave a report on their work.  They are developing a Document Dictionary
Structure and are currently drafting a model object for person.  They
anticipate working on Organization and Location objects.  The Location
corresponds to address information. They are also creating an  object
comparable to 

our "Actor"
structure.  The name is tentative.  There will be references 

between Person, Organization
and Location.  Also, at the next meeting, to be held November 14th and November
15th, will be a property object.  This will be used for Personal, Real and
intellectual property. They will not distribute drafts until narrative and
rationale sections are complete.  Tony Richkowski discussed international
issues including 

the European government
initiative and LexXML.  However, it was pointed out that this effort is funded
by the United States Department of Justice and providing interoperability and a
useful work product for others may not be in their mandate.  Mr. Greacen noted
that Mr. Richkowski 

will be able to circulate the
materials developed by the JXDDS to international groups as part of the
Technical Committee's own review of them.

 

Mr. Donald Bergeron is
working on diagrams for the documentation effort for a more complete
architecture for the various products of the Technical Committee.  He has
posted a suggested revision of the requirement for Court 

Filing Policy.

 

The next item of discussion
was a Statement of Work filed by Dr. Laurence Leff
for the "Order of Protection Prototype Effort."  

(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-courtfiling/200211/msg00001.html)

There were concerns
expressed about whether the Technical Committee should sponsor a software
development effort.  (The Statement of Work discussed the software prototyping
to ensure that any proposals were sound.  However, 

it clearly stated that the
"software will be disposed of outside the 

Technical Committee.")

 

Ms. Mary McQueen announced
that the National Consortium for State Courts Automation Standards will, in the
future, accept the specifications of the Organization for the Advancement of
Structured Information Standards Legal XML Section directly, without requiring
additional review by a Joint Standards Development team.

 

Ms. Robin Gibson, the TC
Webmaster, announced that each topical area has its own web page with content. 
Information can be forwarded to her for the web page by the Technical Committee
co-Chairs, the authors of the document, or the Subcommittee Chair.  She will
not post material to the web site until someone requests same and sends her the
correct document.

 

Mr. Keane discussed the
importance of mapping and bibliography to enable people to find information
easily.  And, he said it would be "neat" if it were in XML.  There
were concerns about whether the staff members at the OASIS office could handle
bibliography information in a database format.

 

Mr. Greacen invited all of
us to the Face-To-Face in Las Vegas
December 12th and December 13th 2002. 
Information on meeting location is on the web site.  Information on lodging
will be available at that web site. Or members needing help with lodging arrangements
may also page 

Dr. Leff at 309 367 0787.

 

 

 

John M. Greacen

Greacen Associates, LLC

505-780-1450

 


















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