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Subject: Regrets and Comments on OLSI meeting




From: "Bergeron, Donald L. \(LNG-DAY\)" <>
To: <>, <>,       "James Bryce Clark" <>,       <>,       <>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:14:20 -0500














Folks,



I have been called into a meeting that is
in conflict with today steering committee meeting.  It's going to be
making specific business critical decisions that I have to be part of.  I
will not be able to attend today's meeting.  My sincere apologies.



Attached is presentation that I gave at
the Open Legal Standards Initiative meeting in . Enclosed also are my
recommendations to the chair of this effort Kelly Ray worked with me on trying
to open up the legislative area.



My short observations on the meeting is
that this is a very early stage attempt to coordinate legal standards that go
well beyond those markup.  They may be supported by markup but are not
markup driven. I look at many of the standards along lines of the efiling
process standards that we used as input to our requirements for ECF 3.0. They
are touching on the general business process and metrics based approaches to
operate in the legal space.











Regards, 

Don 

Donald L. Bergeron

Systems Designer

LexisNexis



O 937-865-1276

H 937-748-2775

M 937-672-7781 











From: John M. Greacen
[mailto:]

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006
1:53 AM

To: ;
'James Bryce Clark'

Cc: ;


Subject: [legalxml-sc] LegalXML
Member Section fourth quarter 2005 report





Patrick – I attach the fourth quarter report,
including our year end budget report and the approved budget for 2006.



Roger – Will you please post the report so that it is
available to all members of the Member Section?  Thank you.



I note in the introduction that I do not recall being
informed of the Board’s action on our proposed change to our ROP
requiring TCs to adopt the Royalty Free on Limited Terms OASIS IPR mode. 
Have I simply forgotten the resolution of that matter, or has no action been
taken?



This will be my last quarterly report.  It has been an
honor to serve as chair of the LegalXML Member Section for the past two years
and to work with you and the OASIS Board in that capacity.  I am confident
that John Messing will perform admirably as my successor.



John M. Greacen

Greacen Associates, LLC

HCR 



505-289-2164

505-289-2163 (fax)

505-780-1450 (cell)










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From: "Bergeron, Donald L. \(LNG-DAY\)" <>
To: <>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:06:43 -0500









Good morning Kelly,



I want to send you my thoughts on
yesterday's meeting and the implications for the next meeting.



First, we have two sets of standards
involved in these discussions.  In some ways this is similar to the
relationship between court filing processes and enabling rules to the
electronic court filing standard.  One cannot do good technical standards
without having a solid understanding and some knowledge of the processes that
the technical standard would be supporting and further the constraints that the
technical standard may encounter and may need to adapt to.



By your nature, you tend to be a quick
action individual, wanting to move things along as quickly as possible. 
However, when you are creating a group or more a team you must have the
expectations that it will go through the standard forming, norming, conforming
and performing stages of development.  The goal would be to get through
the stages as quickly as practical.  The key here is that you have to
create an environment where trust is possible.



A very good way of creating such an
environment is to reflect on and represent the true nature of the environment. 
Your concept of creating a diagram of the standards is a good one.  One
way of reflecting this is to show a ven diagram of the standards and where they
may have overlap.  If you then refactor the diagram into a second diagram
that spreads out the policy and process standards from the enabling technology
standards and showing arrows between them showing primary dependencies and
feedback change control flows between related standards it may show the
universe and the correct light.



As I mentioned in , a good way of doing this is to use
a workshop format using central sessions to work through common concepts and
goals.  Then, going into breakout sessions one set at the policy and
process level and one set in the implementation/supporting level of standards. 
You then bring them back together to share the results between the two and to reflect
and respond to the observations brought forward by each of the breakout
sessions.



The most important item may be to identify
the initial mission and goals of the organization.  Is the mission and
goal to be focused at the policy and process level, at least in the short term
or is there merit to having the implementation/enabling standards involved at
this time?  The group needs to decide this important question or one or
more of the subgroups may become frustrated as I observed some frustration in
the meeting yesterday.



Again, these are my initial thoughts. 
I think there is value in getting the full set together again using the format
I described above.  I believe this will help us set the initial correct
balance.



FYI -- I am dictating this using the
Dragon software and have not needed to do a huge number of manual corrections. 
This remediates the fact that I am a lousy typist.  







Regards, 

Don 

Donald L. Bergeron

Systems Designer

LexisNexis



O 937-865-1276

H 937-748-2775

M 937-672-7781 











From: Bergeron, Donald
L. (LNG-DAY)

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006
8:31 PM

To: ;
'Cusick, James'; '';
''; ''; ''

Cc: Bergeron, Donald L. (LNG-DAY);
Don Bergeron

Subject: RE: OLSI Standards
Interoperability Meeting - January 31 -

Importance: High





Here is the presentation James and I are
giving on the 31st.







Regards, 

Don 

Donald L. Bergeron

Systems Designer

LexisNexis



O 937-865-1276

H 937-748-2775

M 937-672-7781 











From: Kelly Ray
[mailto:]

Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006
12:04 PM

To: Bergeron, Donald L. (LNG-DAY)

Subject: RE: OLSI Standards
Interoperability Meeting - January 31 - 





Thanks for the heads up.



Don – are you aware of a woman that
would be involved with leadership at LegalXML that is coming to attend?  I
had a conversation with a woman who advised that she would be attending (it may
have been Susan Smoter, but I don’t think so because she specifically
referenced the LegalXML leadership team in our conversation).  I
mistakenly wrote down that I was receiving a confirmation from Robin
Gibson.  I’ve now cleared it up that I was not apparently talking
with Robin Gibson, but am not sure I have this other woman on my email listing
in order to make sure she has an update on logistics.



Thanks,

























From: Bergeron, Donald
L. (LNG-DAY) [mailto:]

Sent: Tuesday,

To: 

Subject: RE: OLSI Standards
Interoperability Meeting - January 31 - 





I am trying to coordinate our presentations.
Mine will not be ready til sometime on Friday.







Regards, 

Don 

Donald L. Bergeron

Systems Designer

LexisNexis



O 937-865-1276

H 937-748-2775

M 937-672-7781 











From: Kelly Ray [mailto:]

Sent: Monday,

To:
; Bergeron, Donald L. (LNG-DAY);
; 

Subject: OLSI Standards
Interoperability Meeting - January 31 - 





Gentlemen – still needing to get your slide
decks.  I have them from the other presenters as well as materials from
some of the others that I will post up as well.



Thanks,


















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