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[mgmtprotocol] Minutes for F2F November 6-7, 2002
please see attached Title: Untitled Document OASIS Management Protocol Technical Committee (MPTC) Meeting Minutes Logistics Roll-call Other Business Business In Order Action Items & Motions References Logistics Meeting Date Nov 6-7, 2002 Meeting Time November 6th 9am -12noon, 1pm - 5pm MST November 7th 9am -12noon, 1pm-2pm MST Location HP, 3404 East Harmony Road, Ft. Collins, 80525 Dial-in Number – 888 808 7889 International: 719 457 0701 Conference ID: 100346 Duration 1 hour Chair Winston Bumpus Recording Secretary Hedy Alban Agenda As published [1] Roll-call 2002 16-Oct 30-Oct 6-7 Nov (F2F) Alan Davies AD SeeBeyond N N N Anand Akela AA HP N N N Andrea Westerinen AW Cisco Y N Y Andreas Maier AM IBM N Y Y Aravinda Gollapudi AG Verisign N N N Darran Rolls DR Waveset N N N Dennis Ho DH Iona Y N N Dick Spellman DS Sun Microsystems Inc. Y Y N Ellen Stokes ES IBM N Y N Fred Carter FC Amber Software Y Y Y George Arriola GA Talking Blocks resigned resigned N Gil Kirkpatrick GK NetPro N Y Y Guru Bhat GB Sun Microsystems Inc. N N N Heather KrIeger HK IBM Y Y Y Hedy Alban HED Max Shevet Consulting Y N N Homayoun Pourheidari HP HP N N Y Jim Willits JW HP Y Y Y Julie Schott JS Cisco Y N Y Ken Crozier KC Cisco Y N N Karl Schopmeyer KS2 Independent Y N Y Krishna Sankar KS1 Cisco N N N Michael Thatcher MT Microsoft N Y N Robert Baafi RB Iona N N N Richard Nikula RN BMC Y Y Y Sekhar Saukkai SS Corporate Oxygen Inc. N N N Srinivas Vadhri SV CommerceOne N N N Samiar Vaidya * SV Talking Blocks Y Y Y Veena Subrahmanyam VS HP N Y Y Winston Bumpus WB Novell Y Y Y Yoshimasa Masuoka YM Hitachi N Y Y New Members Kevin Brinkley KB Intel N N N Jim Davis JD Sun N N N Bart Whitely BW Caldera International N N N George Erricson GE EMC N N N Ravi Fernando RS HP N N N Igor Sedukhin IS N N N Bill Dunigan BD Cyclone Commerce N N N Jeff Boulin WebMethods N N N Takaki Kuroda TK Hitachi N N N Ken Fife KF Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) Y Y N Ben Bloch BB Inteq Y N Y Dimdira Dcherevik DD CA N Y N * replacing George Arriola Other Business WB None Business In Order 11/6 Review Agenda for this meeting Agenda reviewed. 11/6 Review and Approve Minutes of Oct 30 Approved as posted 11/6 Review Membership Levels TC authorized Winston to send a warning e-mail to members who have missed four or more meetings: Alan Davies, Anand, Darren, Avarinda, Krishna (Cisco) Robert Boffi, and Srinivas. Samir has attended three consecutive meetings to become a voting member. Other non-voters will continue on probation until they attend three consecutive meetings, at which point they will become voting members. 11/6 OASIS Security Joint Committee Participation (SJC) TC would like to find a member with security background to participate in the SJC. Winston will discuss with Krishna or Aravinda. Alternatively, Winston will recruit someone from the SJC to talk to us. Worst case, Winston will be liaison with SJC. 11/6 Review Requirements Document Karl led a review of existing requirements. Regarding the requirement for data model agnosticity, the TC compared several different protocol strategies, as follows: Payload agnostic strategies Standard set of ops Native wrapped Native format (uppercase binding) Data interoperability strategies Pick 1 existing model Create new one true model (DOA) Pros/cons 1 Pro – Easy 1st step Pro – Enables more consumers Pro – Discovery, security Con – No data interoperability Con – Need new marshaller Con – Need new demarshaller Con – Extensibility of operations/protocols Con – consumer has to understand all of underlying service Con – No ability to determine compliance Pros/cons 2 Pro – Extensibility of operations/protocols Pro – Ability to determine compliance Pro – Discovery, security Pro – Easy 1st step Pro – Enables more consumers Con – consumer has to understand all of underlying service Con – No data interoperability Con – Need new marshaller Con – Need new demarshaller Pros/cons 3 Pro – Extensibility of operations/protocols Pro – Ability to determine compliance Pro - Discovery Pro – Easy 1st step Con – No data interoperability Con – consumer has to understand all of underlying service Con – no security N/A – Need new marshaller N/A – Need new demarshaller N/A – Enables more consumers Pros/cons 4 Pro – data interoperability Pro – Discovery/Security Pro – Extensibility of data and methods Pro – Compliance Pro – enables consumers and clients Pro – reuse of CIM infrastructure Con – Extensibility of operations Con – need to map all existing models to CIM Con – Existing clients need to support this before its useful Pros/cons 5 (DOA) Pro – data interoperability Pro – Discovery/Security Pro – Extensibility of data and methods Pro – Compliance Pro – enables consumers and clients Pro – reuse of CIM infrastructure Con – Extensibility of operations Con – need to map all existing models to CIM Con – Existing clients need to support this before its useful Con – no existing implementations Con – workgroup intensive Con – duplicate implementation 11/6 Discuss proposed Use Cases Richard presented seven use cases for the management protocol: 1. Management application uses the management protocol to access managed objects via a single management server 2. Management application uses the management protocol to access managed objects via multiple management servers of the same type, each managing a unique set of managed objects. 3. Management application uses the management protocol to access managed objects via multiple management servers of the same type, where some or all of the managed objects exist in multiple servers. Management application uses the management protocol to access managed objects via multiple management servers of the different types, each managing a unique set of managed objects. Management application uses the management protocol to access managed objects via multiple management servers of the different types, where some or all of the managed objects exist in multiple servers. The management protocol is integrated in the object by the object provider. The management application (vendor or end user provided) directly interacts with the objects, e.g. SNMP. M management application uses the management protocol to access a management server that is managing other management servers 11/6 WSDL Tutorial Heather reviewed contents of WSDL 1.2, including updates to W3C architecture to accommodate management. 11/6 Protocol Proposals Discussion of where do we want to end up, what function(s) should this TC perform. 11/7 Protocol Proposals (cont) Heather presented a proposal. TC discussed this proposal. Discussion included assessment of how Heather’s proposal meets the requirements. TC members are invited to build example WSDL 1.2 port types to gain perspective on implementability using the operating system class (from system 27 preliminary) Re-draw the diagram in PowerPoint 11/7 Future meetings Plan for F2F week of Jan 13 or Jan 20 in the Bay Area Telecons will be held at 7AM PST on the following dates: Nov 20, Dec 4, Dec 11, Dec 18, Jan 8 11/7 Motion to Adjourn Meeting adjourned at 1:30 PM to reconvene on Nov 20 at 7AM PST. Action Items & Motions Owner Action Item/Motion All TC members are invited to build example WSDL 1.2 port types to gain perspective on implementability of Heather’s suggestion using the OS class (from system 27 preliminary) Re-draw the diagram in PowerPoint Winston Find liaison for the Security Joint Committee References [1] published agenda URL
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