IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-02-13

Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below. Our next meeting will be in two weeks on the 27th of February.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=2&day=27&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&iv=1800
Attendees: Jos, Patrick, John,
Svante
[15:30]   Svante Schubert:  Hi Jos!
[15:31]   Svante Schubert:  Hi Patrick
[15:31]   Svante Schubert:  Hi John!
[15:32]   Jos van den Oever:  Hi guys.
[15:36]   Svante Schubert:  Mail on prototyp -  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201302/msg00000.html
[15:38]   Svante Schubert:  Mail on normalization of ODF lists for operations -  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201302/msg00001.html
[15:45]   Svante Schubert:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201302/msg00005.html
[15:45]   Svante Schubert:  The above mail holds list definitions ^^
[15:52]   Svante Schubert:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49473263/ListStyleResolution.odt
[15:52]   Svante Schubert:  Going to add this to the OASIS SVN ^^
[16:01]   Svante Schubert:  Jos: Their prototype on collaboration is progressing. They are not yet having the same counting mechanism, but they have designed to exchange their operation set.
[16:02]   Jos van den Oever:  s/exchange their operation set/have pluggable operation sets
[16:06]   Svante Schubert:  @Patrick Last week Action item: Patrick to propose XML state change representation of change operations, for next meeting. Preview: State changes have start and end states of being valid ODF XML.
[16:06]   Svante Schubert:  No update on that
[16:08]   Svante Schubert:  A good next step should be to start specify insert/delete of a paragraph and its text.
[16:08]   Svante Schubert:  Patrick: There will be an update on what ODF templates we will use in the next couple of days
[16:10]   Svante Schubert:  Jos: Is currently referencing by character positions.
[16:12]   Svante Schubert:  Jos: Only have linear character stream and inserting/deleting char. To insert paragraph, paragraphs are being splitted.
[16:14]   Svante Schubert:  When you change a formula on a cell, you need to deal with repeating attributes so a logical view on components will solve that problem.
[16:15]   Svante Schubert:  Jos: If the counting have to work cross different applications, it have to specify the detailed cell. For instance, via which table, which row and which cell.
[16:17]   Svante Schubert:  Jos: Discussion of a face2face meeting. As Odf plugfest not preceding, we should think about alternatives.
[16:19]   Svante Schubert:  Svante: Let's see how the disussion on the plugfest proceed. Guess there is little chance to get an OASIS ODF face2face meeting.
[16:20]   Svante Schubert:  Sad that OASIS does not have the culture of f2f meetings as W3C