IRC log from today's meeting - 2015-07-15

Dear SC,
Our next meeting will be on the 29th of July:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=07&day=29&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event:  https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=39474  Dial-in will be similar to the TC.
Attendees : Jos, Peter, John, Svante
Action item : Peter agreed to make a test document of MultiRacio's current collaboration work available to the SC list.
Svante:  Peter is continuing on the MCT prototype on the Calligra code basis
Svante:  Peter: At some point, when reaching a stable milestones the work should be released in public
Svante:  Jos: Is curious on the code and would love to take a look at it!
Svante:  Jos: On the webODF site is a project called Manticore, that is related to Collaboration doing the same operations
Svante:  Jos: Will sent a pointer to these projects to the SC mailing list
Jos van den Oever:  I'll paste links here so they get in the minutes
Jos van den Oever:
https://github.com/adityab/Manticore
Jos van den Oever:
https://github.com/kogmbh/kotype
Svante:  Thanks
Jos van den Oever:  here are the operations:  https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/tree/master/webodf/lib/ops
Jos van den Oever:  this is close to what you are describing, svante
Jos van den Oever:
https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/tree/master/webodf/tests/ops
Jos van den Oever:
https://github.com/kogmbh/WebODF/blob/master/webodf/tests/ops/operationtests.xml
Jos van den Oever:  <before><office:text><text:p/></office:text></before>
Jos van den Oever:  <ops>
<op optype= InsertText  position= 0  text= a
moveCursor= true />
<op optype= InsertText  position= 2  text= b  moveCursor= true />
<op optype= InsertText  position= 3  text= c  moveCursor= true />
</ops>
Jos van den Oever:  <after><office:text><text:p>a bc</text:p></office:text></after>
Svante:  Svante: Talks about problems with  selling  the work on a  reloaded  change-tracking approach
Svante:  Svante: The solution of that problem is likely the advantages of automated regression tests, allowing more fine granular data change than loading a file.
Svante:  Svante: Another use case is to understand what features are part of a document..
Svante:  Peter: Can you get back to the list with what features you are working and require test documents or discussion on specification?
Svante:  I am curious if we can transform some operations (changes) from WebODF to Multracio's Calligra branch
Svante:  Perhaps we can even agree on protocol for a prototype exchanging operations
Svante:  Jos: Peter do you have a example document that we can map to operations
Svante:  Jos: Subversion from the TC is only used for the ODF specification
Svante:  Svante: Would love to have test files on a server to be downloaded on demand, like Maven binary dependencies, but this is a bells&whistles feature.. (nice2have)

Svante:  Svante: Usually there are test document for certain features. A document will be placed in a centralized place (like ODF TC) for every ODF application to access them
Svante:  Jos: The webodf developers are looking forward for test document(s) from Peter to the SC list
Svante:  It could be a test document with changes within and/or how a document is being mapped to a sequence of changes (as a different representation to the file format)

Svante:  So we meet again on the 29th of July in two week!
Svante:  byebye