IRC log from today's meeting - 2015-07-29

Dear SC,
Our next meeting will be on the 26th of August:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=08&day=26&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
The next one is cancelled due to summer vacation time.  The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=39476
Dial-in will be similar to the TC.
Attendees : Peter, John, Svante
Action item : WebODF samples of their operations should be compared with the given ones:
[16:30]   Svante Schubert:  Hi Peter
[16:31]   Peter Rakyta:  Hi
[16:33]   Svante Schubert:  To start with an announcement, if not already done so in the ODF TC, there will be an ODF Plugfest in Den Haag:  http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/
[16:34]   Svante Schubert:  on the 15th and 16th September 2015
[16:34]   Svante Schubert:  There had been test documents from Peter and myself on the list:  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/maillist.html
[16:37]   Svante Schubert:  Here is my test document -  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/msg00003.html
[16:38]   Svante Schubert:  Then we have the test document of Peter -  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201507/msg00007.html
[16:39]   Svante Schubert:  the public links are:
[16:39]   Svante Schubert:  1)  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=56181&wg_abbrev=office-collab
[16:41]   Svante Schubert:  Peter: The undo.xml is included as part of the modified ODT document
[16:42]   Peter Rakyta:  <!DOCTYPE undo> <undo started="2015-07-27T12:47:01">  <ChangeGroup date="2015-07-27T12:47:20" id="1" comment="Test case 001" author="Peter Rakyta">
<del type="text" id="2" s="/17/75" e="/17/99"/>
<add type="text" id="4" s="/18/68" e="/18/87"> special characters</add>
<add type="text" id="6" s="/20/52" e="/20/65"> sentence two</add>
<del type="text" id="8" s="/17/153" e="/17/155"></del>
<add type="text" id="9" s="/17/153" e="/17/176">sentence four. This is </add>
<del type="par" id="11" s="/17/99" e="/18/100"/>
<del type="text" id="13" s="/20/67" e="/20/68"/>
<add type="par" id="14" s="/20/67" e="/21/1"/>  </ChangeGroup> </undo>
[16:42]   Svante Schubert:  ^^ the undo.xml being included in the modified document
[16:43]   Svante Schubert:  Peter: These are the character and paragraph changes being described in the text of the document.
[16:43]   Svante Schubert:  Peter: This undo.xml was being created by the Calligra Android version that is being developed by MultiRacio
[16:48]   Svante Schubert:  In Denmark there will be in September 23.-25. as well the LibreOffice conference having an ODF track -  https://conference.libreoffice.org/
[16:49]   Svante Schubert:  Peter: What kind of test document do we neeD?
[16:49]   Svante Schubert:  I would always prefer those that can be tested automatically.. :)
[16:50]   Svante Schubert:  InputDocument + Change =? ReferenzDocument
[16:50]   Svante Schubert:  InputDocument + Change =? ReferenzChanges
[16:50]   Svante Schubert:  ^^ one of the above approaches?
[16:51]   Svante Schubert:  Are we testing the document or a sequence of changes in the end as referencE?
[16:51]   Svante Schubert:  I will take a closer look at the autotests that Jos has started.
[16:53]   Svante Schubert:  What do we need to change of the structure of the test documents of Peter?
[16:54]   Svante Schubert:  For instance, what was the original application the documents are created from?
[16:55]   Svante Schubert:  Perhaps we might want to use naming convention of the document file name to see from first sight, what app it was created from?
[16:55]   Svante Schubert:  Wouldn't be nice to start test driven?
[16:56]   Svante Schubert:  Have a automated test framework using your test documents.
[17:01]   Svante Schubert:  Now the WebODf should come up with a feed-back.
[17:02]   Svante Schubert:  We need to agree on a syntax so we can exchange test documents among WebODF, OX Text and your Calligra branch
[17:04]   Svante Schubert:  It might be reasonable to have adapters translating one operations to another.. to be compatible fast with comparable little effort
[17:06]   Svante Schubert:  In two weeks I will be on summer vacations so the next call will be:
[17:06]   Svante Schubert:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=08&day=26&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
[17:07]   Svante Schubert:  thanks for joining!
[17:07]   Svante Schubert:  bye