RE: [office] 3/16 Minutes

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mike paciello <>
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2006-03-27T17:54:10+00:00
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RE: [office] 3/16 Minutes
BTW -- quick kudos to Peter and Rich for running a great 
meeting at CSUN. We were all pretty tired by the time Friday evening came 
around, but we did get alot accomplished. It was also great to meet Chieko and 
Hiro.

 

- Mike

 

Mike 
Paciello
TPG
+1 603.882.4122 ext 103

 

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger 
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:41 
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To: Nathaniel S Borenstein
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Subject: Re: [office] 3/16 
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Thanks Nathaniel. Has the TC begun to address the table issue 
yet?

Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility 
Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review 
Board
blog: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=441

"Two 
roads diverged in a wood, and I - 
I took the one less traveled by, and that 
has made all the difference.", Frost

Nathaniel S 
Borenstein/Concord/IBM

  
  

    
      
        
          
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03/27/2006 09:39 AM

    
      
        
        

          

            
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Sorry for 
being unclear. All I meant was that it was the SC's duty to make the problem 
clear to the TC. I believe you have already done that more than adequately. -- 
Nathaniel

Richard 
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            Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM 
              
03/26/2006 01:30 PM

    
      
        
        

          

            
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Hi 
Nathaniel,

What do you mean by "has a role in formally raising it to the 
attention of the TC." This reads like do we have actually have the right of 
submitting requirements to the TC. I don't think that is what you meant. Did you 
mean to say that the process for submitting requirements is unclear? 

Rich

Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished 
Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility 
Architecture Review Board
blog: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=441

"Two 
roads diverged in a wood, and I - 
I took the one less traveled by, and that 
has made all the difference.", Frost

Nathaniel S 
Borenstein/Concord/IBM@IBMUS

  
  

    
      
        
          
            Nathaniel S 
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OASIS ODF 
Accessibility SC Meeting MINUTES 
Thursday March 16, 
2006 

[Please send any corrections or additions to 
Nathaniel this week.] 

Attending (This is probably 
wrong): Nathaniel Borenstein, Jerry Barrier, Mike Paciello, Chieko Asakawa, 
Hironobu Takagi, Tatsuye Ishihara, Steve Noble, Peter Korn, Rich Schwerdtfeger, 
Janina Sajka. Janina took notes in the absence of Dave Pawson, from which these 
minutes were prepared by the chair. 

I. The minutes 
of the March 9 meeting were approved as corrected and submitted. 

II. Next week, most of this subcommittee will be at CSUN, while 
others (Nathaniel, anyway) will be at IETF. We discussed having a semi-formal 
meeting of the subcommittee at CSUN, and (with refinement on the mailing list) 
agreed on a date, time, and place. Topics to be discussed in person were added 
throughout the meeting: (1) Focus tracking (2) Z-order (3) alt-texts. 

III. The topic of short vs long alt-text fields was 
discussed. The mediaobject proposal might be a better way to approach this 
problem, but it was agreed that this was too big a change to undertake for our 
short term (June) deadline, but agreed we should consider it seriously after 
that. It was generally agreed to take the short/long approach in the near term. 
In the long term we will discuss both the mediaobject proposal and the possible 
use of the caption field. 

IV. The table/svg issue 
was discussed. There is a consensus between the TC and the SC that this is a job 
for the TC, but that the SC has a role in formally raising it to the attention 
of the TC. It is hoped but not yet certain that the TC can solve this problem in 
the short-term time frame. 

V. List item issue: There 
is no easy semantic way to know how deep we are in a nested list structure. The 
appropriate information might be inferred, but only in a rather klugy way that 
puts a larger burden on implementers. The obvious way to fix this would be to 
add an indent or depth attribute. 

VI. List of use 
cases from Matt: After discussion, the SC concluded that there were not 
additional requirements generated from these use cases. Sighs of relief were 
audible all around. 

VII. Traversal of objects in a 
complex drawing was discussed, somewhat inconclusively, and deferred to the 
in-person meeting at CSUN. 

The next meeting will 
take place on March 30. 

Summary of action 
items: 

Dave Pawson -- Although absent from this 
meeting, Dave as document editor needs to make sure that topics III and V make 
it into the document. 

Various -- Try to make 
progress at CSUN on the key issues described above. 

Nathaniel -- Follow up with TC on Table/SVG issue (again)