Re: [office] XHTML 2 and ODF?

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Richard Schwerdtfeger <>
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2006-03-21T20:40:19+00:00
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Re: [office] XHTML 2 and ODF?
Rich Schwerdtfeger

Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist

Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review  Board

blog: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=441

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - 

I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.", Frost

"Bruce D'Arcus" <> wrote on 03/21/2006 02:12:39 PM:

> Hi Richard,

> 

> On Mar 21, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:

> 

> > I am on the HTML working group developing XHTML2 and the ODF 

> > accessibility subteam.

> 

> Oh good!

> 

> > I was one of the engineers that developed the role attribute additon. 

> > It is not clear we need that at this time. Neither the XHTML 2 or the 

> > Dynamic Web Accessibility Specifications are at recommendation phase 

> > so we just can't pull in the features through namespaces. For the 

> > greatest value I believe the role value would be linked to a taxonomy 

> > covering drawings/diagrams. ... but we may find value for it in this 

> > or a later release of ODF.

> 

> What was interesting to me about "role" was not so much its specifics 

> (I"m really not sure whether we could use it), so much as that its 

> design reflects consideration of both accessibility and semantic web 

> integration, which is now the subject of two of our subcommittees.

> 

Interesting. I would like to know more about what your are planning for semantic web integration.

We are also using role to map to a GUI and structural taxonomy in the W3C WAI

PF working group so that we can make DHTML/AJAX type applications accessible.

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/roadmap/DHTMLRoadmap030706.html

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/GUI/roleTaxonomy-20060221.html

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/adaptable/StatesAndProperties-20051106.html

> Those of working on metadata had realized that we'll need one or more 

> attributes that link content or styles to metadata descriptions, so 

> hence my interest. But the attributes that are a part of RDF/A are 

> probably closer to what we'd need.

> 

OK. What is the timeline you are looking for in ODF?

> Aside: there's another thing that I really like about XHTML 2.0, which 

> is that it has real sectional structures and smarter paragraph 

> structures (they can contain lists and other blocks). I realize this is 

> a fairly radical break with the existing flat structure of XHTML 1.0 

> and ODF, but it does bring with it a variety of benefits, including 

> enhancing accessibility (mentioned in the presentation by Pemberton). 

> Maybe something worth thinking about for ODF 2.0.

> 

> > Is Notes something the TC was going to add to ODF and if so when?

> 

> ODF already has what I was asking for, which is some way to indicate 

> what in print-oriented formats like ODF are rendered as footnotes or 

> endnotes.

I see so you would be interested in marking these as such through the use of role.

> 

> Bruce

>