Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS

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Duane Nickull <>
Date
2008-03-25T19:00:33+00:00
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Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS
Title: Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS

Agree. The ISO PDF spec does not and I believe it is a wise approach. 

Duane

On 25/03/08 11:33 AM, "Warren Turkal" <> wrote:

I can see a use for both encrypting and not encrypting the metadata. I

just don't want to see the standard define only a method that does not

encrypt the metadata.

wt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Duane Nickull <> wrote:

>

>  For the ISO PDF specification and reference implementation, the ability to

> encrypt the entire package vs. the content except metadata is a decision

> left to the encrypter.  If you use Acrobat pro, you can toggle this

> preference. There is no one rule that universally applied to people using

> PDF.  For archiving PDF's, it is often preferred to be able to preserve

> plain text metadata.  This also might help applications understand the

> encryption algorithm used and give them the ability to use the right key to

> open it.

>

>  As for the preferred opening, there is a way to save PDF as backwards

> compatible files (previous versions) and specify certain initial view

> settings however you cannot (to my knowledge) specify a preferred

> application that will override the base operating system preferences the SU

> of the O/S specified.  Such would be a minor security risks in some cases

> (such as telling it to open a PDF in a browser and pass it a URL to a porn

> site or some site to verify a user responded to add that use to a spam

> list).

>

>  Duane

>

>

>

>

>  On 25/03/08 10:49 AM, "Warren Turkal" <> wrote:

>

>

>

> I think that it makes sense to include the "preferred" open method in

>  the manifest.

>

>  However, an encryption layer should probably encrypt the manifest as

>  well. There's no reason to give an attacker any information.

>

>  wt

>

>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:57 PM,  <> wrote:

>  >

>  > But even a PDF file could be opened in either Acrobat Reader or the full

>  > Acrobat application (or their equivalents).

>  >

>  > It makes me wonder if this isn't better expressed at the

> packaging/manifest

>  > level?

>  >

>  > We should think of our package format as being independent of whatever is

> in

>  > content.xml.  In the future, our packaging conventions (Zip container +

>  > manifest.xml + mimetype + thumbnail.png) could be used by other

>  > applications.  At this level we define things like encryption and digital

>  > signatures.  Is this the right place to define the preferred "open mode"

> of

>  > the document, edit versus play versus whatever?

>  >

>  > This would also have the advantage of being able to detect this

> preference

>  > quickly before decryption, which would be useful if there are two

> entirely

>  > difference applications, like in the PDF case, but also where you might

> have

>  > a lightweight screenshow viewer, fast to launch, versus a larger, slower

>  > loading editor.

>  >

>  > -Rob

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >  "Warren Turkal" <>

>  >

>  > 03/24/2008 07:14 PM

>  >

>  > To 

>  >

>  > cc

>  > 

>  >

>  > Subject Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS

>  >

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>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM, David A. Wheeler <>

>  > wrote:

>  >  >  E.G., in the "one laptop per child" system, it'd make sense to have a

>  > lot of

>  >  >  textbooks in OpenDocument format that are normally opened in a

> "browser"

>  >  >  (read-only) mode, while other documents that you're working on would

> be

>  >  >  opened using an editor.  (The browser might be optimized just for

>  > reading).

>  >

>  >  To play devil's advocate, wouldn't PDF be a better format for the use

>  >  case of viewing (and not editing) a document?

>  >

>  >  wt

>  >

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