RE: [office] preferred view mode upon opening document

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Ming Fei Jia <>
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2008-10-28T06:38:02+00:00
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RE: [office] preferred view mode upon opening document
Hi Dennis,

"Dennis E. Hamilton" <> wrote on 10/28/2008 12:03:34 AM:

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> "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>

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> Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM@IBMCN

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> 10/27/2008 09:04 PM

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> RE: [office] preferred view mode upon opening document

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> In the ODF TC Call, there was a request for clarification of the <choice>

> rule for manifest:preferred-view-mode and the passage beginning "Beyond

> that, ... ."

> 

> Here is my recommendation for changes to the text to clarify what is

> intended:

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> In the current proposal,

> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/proposal%3Aauto-play_presentation_file_for

> mat

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> Under "(1) simple option", change

> "Add an attribute <presentation:auto-slide-show> ..."

> to

> "Add an attribute presentation:auto-slide-show ..." 

option 1 will not be considered again since most of members prefer the extended option. Anyway, thanks.

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> Under "(2) extended option"

> in the added paragraph on "Preferred View Mode" replace the sentence

> "Beyond that, a namespaced value is defined to enable the specific

> application to customize its preferred view mode."

> with

> "Alternatively, a namespaced value may be used to specify a custom value for

> the preferred view mode."

I think this wording is better than the original one, thanks.

> 

> I also suggest that the the sentence 

> "No default value is defined, and the way ... undefined."

> be replaced by the two sentences

> "There is no default value.  The behavior of application software is not

> specified for cases where manifest:preferred-view-mode is absent or the

> value is one not provided for."

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> This last change is intended to cover situations where a custom value is not

> known to the implementation as well as when a well-known value is

> inappropriate or simply not supported.  

Agree, this will be more extensible:)

>I avoided use of "undefined" because

> this can be taken to mean that some sort of failure or rejection of the

> document is also an option.

Agree, I am not English native speaker, not aware this sensitive meaning.

> 

> It seems valuable that the down-level behavior of ignoring the attribute is

> also consistent with the defined behavior for 1.2.

> 

>  - Dennis

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> PS: I did not suggest any particular way that agreement on custom values

> might occur.  It seems simplest to leave that unstated and be something that

> happens by unspecified means.  Everything I thought to say was either very

> clumsy or too limited.  

Currently what we can make certain is the 3 pre-defined values. For those uncertain values, some members prefer to define a pattern to specify the custom values. This may be mainly for those non traditional office software. I also agree with this because extensibility is not a bad thing for me.

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> PPS: There is a question on whether the attribute should be preserved where

> it is not recognized or is not being honored.  It is not a foreign

> attributed but it can have a foreign value.  It is technically not a foreign

> attribute down-level because it is in a standard namespace, although

> implementations are known that drop attributes that are unsupported,

> whatever the namespace.   This is a meta-topic that we might want to discuss

> separately.

It is surely the case that native attribute may have a foreign value. This is an example that extensibility requires such solution. Maybe this topic will become a general topic in the whole ODF spec. Anyway, discuss it separately.

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