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Questions/comments concerning the Select Committee report on Change Tracking
Questions/comments concerning the Select Committee
report on Change Tracking
1. "GCT and ECT were proposed and discussed as changes to the ODF
format for change tracking, not collaboration. In fairness to
those proposals and to create a common basis for comparison, the
select committee choose to compare GCT, ECT and MCT as change
tracking proposals only."
A sensible decision, in line with the TC terms of reference for
the Subcommittee.
2. "Without implying a decision on syntax, the select committee
chose the ETC's feature matrix as the basis for features to be
supported by the new change tracking features of ODF (Annex A)."
Speaking as chair of the Subcommittee, there have been strong
requests for change tracking in spreadsheets and the terms of
reference of the Subcommittee was even wider than this. I note
that you have added global operations and that seems very
sensible, although useful operations such as text-to-table and
vice versa will remain untrackable.
3. "GCT, ECT and MCT all chose different paths but with some minor
differences all would satisfy the change tracking use cases."
Actually that is incorrect: ECT was unable to satisfy the use
cases for spreadsheets. MCT to date has shown solutions for only a
small set of use cases.
4. "Having said that, however, ECT adds detailed markup in an
attempt to make change tracking “easier” which it may do in some
view of the format. Lack of verbosity is not a goal for XML but as
has been seen from practical experience, performance of XML
editors can suffer from overly verbose XML."
This implies ECT was rejected on grounds of verbosity. I
understand from our conference call that this is not the case so
perhaps you could clarify this and be a bit more specific in
identifying why ECT was not favoured.
5. "GCT ... represents a great change to the ODF format. It would
require a substantial overhead, both for XML and non-XML
implementations of ODF. Particularly when compared to the
operations proposal which we discuss below. The select committee
cannot recommend GCT as the proposal to “fix” change tracking in
ODF."
This statement that GCT has a more substantial overhead than MCT
seems to be a bold declaration, given that MCT is some
considerable way away from being fully defined. Please would you
add an explanation of this for the record as you are asking the TC
to base the future direction of ODF on this.
Also note that there are already two independent implementations
of GCT which provide clear evidence that the overhead is not
substantial. Have you dismissed this evidence, and if so please
explain why?
6. "MCT has been distracting with its emphasis on collaboration
issues in a change tracking context. It does offer the cleanest
proposal for tracking changes in ODF documents."
Please explain what you mean by "cleanest".
7. "The first point to be made is that once operations and
addressing are defined, the MCT change tracking proposal only
requires an understanding of existing ODF markup. As opposed to
specification and parsing of additional, “change tracking”
markup."
My understanding was that MCT would require a new set of markup
(for operations and addressing) that would need to be defined for
use in undo.xml. Each operation would have its own specific
markup, which would need to be defined, parsed and understood by
an application. Moreover, the application would need to understand
and be tested against the definition of all the operations.
Therefore, if that is correct, I suggest that this statement is
somewhat misleading. Please provide a more detailed explanation of
what you mean here.
Robin
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