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Re: [office] Start for a document about terms relevant for layout of text documents

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Andreas J Guelzow <>
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2018-03-19T15:16:52+00:00
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Re: [office] Start for a document about terms relevant for layout of text documents
Hi Regina,

    
in a spreadsheet, there is usually enough space between cells for
      the gridlines. Borders are commonly placed centered on the
      gridline extending in all adjacent cells. I would say that that
      means they are "between cells" rather than "inside the cells".

    
Andreas

    

    

    
On 18-03-19 08:51 AM, Regina Henschel
      wrote:

    

    Hi
      Andreas,
      

      

      what is "cell" for you? For me "cell" is the intersection of a
      column area with a row area. And because there is nothing
      "between" two adjacent column areas in a table, there cannot be a
      border area "between" columns.
      

      

      Kind regards
      

      Regina
      

      

      Andreas J. Guelzow schrieb am 19.03.2018 um 03:38:
      

      Hi Regina,
        

        

        It seems to me that the text "Borders are not between columns or
        rows
        

        but inside the cells." is misleading since it is seems to imply
        the
        

        "separating" model. For the "collapsing" model the borders are
        really
        

        between cells.
        

        

        Andreas
        

        

        

        On 18-03-18 08:06 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
        

        Hi Andreas,
          

          

          Andreas J. Guelzow schrieb am 19.03.2018 um 02:20:
          

          Hi,
            

            

            The text "Borders belong to cells, not to columns or rows.
            Borders are
            

            not between columns or rows but inside the cells. Border
            width is set by
            

            fo:border attributes and for the special case of border
            style double by
            

            style:border-line-width attributes, all in
            

            <style:table-cell-properties>. In case
            table:border-model="collapsing"
            

            is set for the table, each of two adjacent cells gets half
            of the
            

            calculated border width." sounds to me as if separated
            borders are
            

            supposed to be the default. I cannot find this in ODF 1.2:
            20.405 seems
            

            to indicate that there are two models, separating and
            collapsing, that
            

            are chosen by the value for table:border-model. There
            appears to be no
            

            "default" specified.
            

          
          

          As style it needs no default. Of cause, for interoperability
          it would
          

          better to define a default.
          

        
        

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