Fwd: Status on ODF second review request?

Greetings!

    
You will be glad to know that the TC Admin did reach our request
      for the second public review!

    
I inquired about our status and got the email below from Paul
      Knight. 

    

    
Looking at the HTML parts he suggests, it is really wretched. 

    

    
I asked him to hold off publishing until I could ask the TC
      explicitly if this is what we want to showcase as our work.

    
Top of the agenda for next week.

    
Hope everyone is having a great week!

    
Patrick

    

    

      

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            Subject:
            
            Re: Status on ODF second review request?
          

          

            Date: 
            Tue, 8 Sep 2020 14:55:03 -0400
          

          

            From: 
            Paul Knight <>
          

          

            To: 
            Patrick Durusau <>, Chet Ensign
              <>
          

        
      
      

      

      
Hi Patrick,
        

        

        
I just took a quick look at the files, and have a few
          observations:

        
- justÂlooking at the files, I wondered about the HTML
          versions of the three RNG files. This is new. No problem,
          we'll include them along with the other files into /schemas
          subdirectory. (I see internal documentationÂ"In order to meet
          the evolving needs of the Internet community, the XML grammar
          RNG files will be rendered as well into a HTML publication
          format.", so it removes my concern that the inclusion of these
          RNG-HTML files might have been triggered by a
          misinterpretationÂof OASIS publication requirements...)

        
- In general, the files look very good, probably ready to
          publish, except for...

        

        

        
The HTML representation of mathematical expressions is
          still atrocious in many instances. So I'd like to verify
          whether the TC wants to proceed with publishing these HTML
          files as-is, or try to work on this.

        

        

        
A couple of examples are in Part 3 and Part 4:

        

        

        Part 3:

        - HTML for Section 20.27 "chart:interpolation" is really badly
        scrambled, with apparent repetitions (note "where for all") and
        lots of dropped math expressions - when compared to the PDF or
        ODT.

        

        Part 4:

        

        Part 4 shows very serious corruption of the HTML version, in
        handling the presentation of some of the more complicated
        mathematical formulas. A good example is seen in 6.18.41
        (LINEST).

        Compare the PDF format with the HTML format, beginning several
        lines below TABLE 29 - Linest
        (OpenDocument-v1.3-csd03-part4-formula.html#refTable28) [also
        note minor discrepancy in the name of the tag - 28 vs 29].
        

          Below the text "and define the following matrices:", the PDF
          shows three matrices, but the HTML only shows the first of
          these three matrices.

          Just below that, the PDF has the text:

          - "Let X^T denote the transpose of X, see TRANSPOSE 6.5.6.
          Then the matrix product X^TâX is a square matrix. If X^TâX is
          not invertible, then LINEST shall either return an error or
          calculate a result as described below." (and several lines,
          below, the text "These a,b1,â,bn"

          

          The HTML shows the same text as:

          - "Let

          X^T

          If

          X^TâX

          These a,b1,â,bn"

          The HTML appears to simply discard big blocks of text and
          formulas appearing after the first math _expression_ in a
          sentence.

          **************************

        

        

        
So - proceed withÂpublishing this as-is, or try to fix the
          HTML issues with math?

          

          
Best regards,

        

        
Paul

      

      

      

        
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:27 AM
          Chet Ensign <>
          wrote:

        

        
          
Hi Patrick,Â
            

            

            
Hope you had a happy day off. Beautiful weather up here
              and I finally got my boat set up, in time for the last 2
              months of the season.Â

            

            

            
I think Paul has been checking it out but copying him
              here so he can reply. Paul, the ticket isÂhttps://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-3793

            

            

            
Patrick, generally we take them in rank order.Â

            

            

            
Best,Â

            

            

            
/chet

          

          

          

            
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at
              5:15 PM Patrick Durusau <>
              wrote:

            

            Chet,

              

              Cleaning off my desk a bit and had mistakely look at your
              JIRA queue in

              ticket # order. Then I thought I don't understand what
              order you use for

              tickets.

              

              So, just curious where we might be on the second request
              for ODF?

              

              I've got a funded TC member whose job it is to gnaw on my
              ankles. After

              years of my supporting them in the TC. Shrugs, it's of no
              moment.

              

              Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!

              

              Patrick

              

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              Patrick Durusau

              

              Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)

              Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor
              ISO/IEC 26300

              Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

              

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              Twitter: patrickDurusau 

              

              

            
          

          
          

          

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