RE: [saml-dev] InterOp Scenario Extensions draft-01

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RE: [saml-dev] InterOp Scenario Extensions draft-01
Title: RE: [saml-dev] InterOp Scenario Extensions draft-01

Is there 
closure on the proposed scenario? I am not sure

I follow 
exactly what is being proposed here. A re-spin would

be helpful, I 
could then add it to the official demo. doc.

 

- 
prateek

 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Fetterer 
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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:56 
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To: 'Bhavna Bhatnagar'; ; Andy 
  Fetterer
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] InterOp Scenario Extensions 
  draft-01

  
Bhavna / Scott - 

  
Thanks for reviewing the document and making 
  suggestions. 

  
In terms of how the attribute assertion is passed to the 
  authorization authority, would the third proposal make the most sense?  I 
  don't think that the expiration range would have to be unreasonably 
  long.  

  
I intended for the attribute to be required as part of the 
  authorization query (e.g. the receiver must be able to process it), but its 
  use in determining the response to the query was not required.  My 
  concern was that not all authorization authorities would be able to support 
  external attributes but I agree that we the requirement I wrote can be 
  strengthened.  

  
That being said, should we require that the attribute be used 
  in evaluation or not pass the attribute as part of the query?  I would 
  prefer to use the attribute since it presents a stronger demonstration of 
  interoperability between systems but would like to hear from the sub-group 
  working on the authorization queries.

  
-Andrew 

  
-----Original Message----- 
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  Bhavna Bhatnagar [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:49 AM 
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Subject: Re: [saml-dev] 

  
Andrew, 
Thanks for writing this up. I 
  have a few comments/suggestions embedded. Not sure 
if 
  all can access the doc, since I edited it in staroffice. Here is 
  
the text I have embedded: 
AS part of 
  the original specification by prateek what comes as the SSO Assertion 
  
during SSO has an authentication statement and the 
  attribute statement holding 
the MembershipLevel 
  attribute. Since there is no separate attribute assertion 
coming down as part of the SSO, one would have to either: 
  
1.Make an attribute query to the AA, and on receving the 
  attribute assertion, 
use that as Evidence when making 
  the proposed Authz query. ( this does not make 
sense 
  since the receiver of the SSO assertion already has the attribute 
  
information) 
2. Create an 
  attribute assertion from the attribute statement received as part 
  
of the SSO Assertion and use that as Evidence. ( dont 
  think this is SOAP binding 
though, someone please 
  confirm) 
3.Use the same SSO Assertion as received 
  during the SSO, which also holds the 
attribute 
  statement as the Evidence, but then this may have expired. We could 
  
keep the expiration range to be long enough so that 
  the assertion is alive for 
the whole round trip 
  demo. 

  
If its upto vendor to use/not use the attribute assertion, 
  what's  the point of 
making it ? 

  
We need to refine this part to choose one of the 3 options or 
  any other 
alternatives. I think option 3 is more 
  viable. 
Thoughts ? 

  
Thanks 

  
Bhavna 

  
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