RE: [saml-dev] asynchronous response on SAML over SOAP over HTTP

From
Trevor Perrin <>
Date
2002-07-17T01:57:48+00:00
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Thread
RE: [saml-dev] asynchronous response on SAML over SOAP over HTTP
Title: RE: [saml-dev] asynchronous response on SAML over SOAP over HTTP

 

Interestingly, though the current SAML bindings are synchronous, the 
browser/artifact profile assumes bindings may be 
asynchronous.

 

Prateek pointed this out to me in person, regarding our thread 
about whether the notBefore/notOnOrAfter checks are necessary in the 
browser/artifact profile.  If a synchronous binding was used, and the 
responder could be trusted only to return timely assertions, then the 
requestor would not need to do validity-period checking.  This is 
probably true for any use of a SAML binding, not just the brower/artifact 
profile.

 

At the 
recent Interop, validity-period checking caused problems in parsing and 
time synchronization.  So maybe we should take advantage of 
synchronous bindings to avoid these.  A binding spec could say 
whether it's synchronous or asynchronous, so that profiles could mandate these 
checks only in the asynchronous case.

 

Anyways, if this seems reasonable to people, I'd like to submit it as a 
feature request to the SSTC.  How would I go about 
this?

 

Trevor

 

 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Lockhart 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:03 
  PM
To: 'Yuji Sakata'; 
Cc: 
  ''
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] 
  asynchronous response on SAML over SOAP over HTTP

  
Last week was a holiday for many people in the US. 

  
You are correct that the SOAP Binding is currently only 
  synchronous. The idea was to support a simple, mandatory to implement scheme, 
  to insure basic interoperability. Frankly no one mentioned this as a 
  requirement. Our main focus has been online environments in which an answer is 
  needed immediately.

  
The SSTC (SAML) is preparing to begin work on new features 
  very soon. It would be good to submit this requirement. Do you have a usecase 
  in mind that would clarify how this capability would be used?

  
Hal 

  
> -----Original Message----- 
> 
  From: Yuji Sakata [mailto:] 
  
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:54 AM 
> To:  
> 
  Subject: [saml-dev] asynchronous response on SAML over SOAP over HTTP 
  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> I 
  have a question about SOAP (over HTTP) Binding for SAML. 
> In 3.1.3 of [SAMLBind],  SAML Assertion is typically returned 
  
> synchronously on the same HTTP connection by SAML 
  Responder. 
> Is it required? I couldn't find the 
  explicit description about this 
> issue in 3.1.3 
  [SAML Bind]. 
> If synchronous reply is required, 
  does it mean SOAP (over 
> HTTP) Binding 
  
> haven't supported asynchronous response (for 
  example, in conjunction 
> with ebXML messaging 
  service) yet? 
> 
> 
  Regards, 
> 
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> 
  Yuji Sakata (NTT Data Corporation) 
> Tel: 
  +81-3-3523-8081 
> E-Mail: 
   
> 
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