RE: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 SSO & identity management

From
Giuseppe Sarno <>
Date
2005-10-28T08:31:07+00:00
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RE: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 SSO & identity management
Title: Message

There 
are a lot of clarifications.

My 
question is would they make V2.0 ?

 

Giuseppe.

  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarno, Giuseppe 
  [MOP:GM15:EXCH] 
Sent: 28 October 2005 09:22
To: Philpott, 
  Robert; Conor P. Cahill
Cc: 
  
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 SSO 
  & identity management

  
Many 
  thanks,

  
I'll 
  look into this document.

  
 

  
Giuseppe.

  
    

    
-----Original Message-----
From: Philpott, 
    Robert [mailto:] 
Sent: 27 October 2005 
    18:27
To: Conor P. Cahill; Sarno, Giuseppe 
    [MOP:GM15:EXCH]
Cc: 
    
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 SSO 
    & identity management

    

    
Hi 
    Giuseppe,

    
 

    
It’s a good idea to 
    also check our errata document.  Some questions you have might have 
    been addressed by the TC in that document.  Our plan is to update the 
    specs with these corrections. The SAML 2.0 errata document is at: 
    sstc-saml-errata-2.0-draft-18.pdf. Item PE-6 
    states:

    
 

    
Description:  When using the nameid-format:encrypted type of 
    name identifier in SAML assertions and protocol messages, it is not possible 
    to communicate the format of the unencrypted identifier as part of the 
    assertion or message.  This concept was derived from Liberty which only used 
    it for persistent identifiers.  Since we also support other formats in 
    SAML 2.0, the agreement on the unencrypted form (prior to encryption/after 
    decryption) must be done out of band.

    
Options: In 
    [SAMLCore] append to paragraph ending on line 2139:

    
“It is not possible for the service provider to 
    specifically request that a particular kind of identifier be returned if it 
    asks for encryption. The <md:NameIDFormat> metadata element (see 
    [SAMLMeta]) or other out-of-band means MAY be used to determine what kind of 
    identifier to encrypt and return.”

    
 

    
Disposition: 
    During the conference call of April 12 the TC accepted 
    this option.

    
 

    
 

    

    
Rob 
    Philpott
Senior Consulting 
    Engineer
RSA 
    Security Inc.
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From: Conor 
    P. Cahill [mailto:] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:34 
    AM
To: Giuseppe 
    Sarno
Cc: Philpott, Robert; 
    
Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 SSO 
    & identity management

    
 

    

Giuseppe Sarno wrote on 10/27/2005, 11:23 AM: 
    

    
      

      
Hi 
      thanks,

      

      
 

      

      
The other thing 
      strange (to me anyway) (also looking at 
      2136)

      

      
is that the 
      NameIDPolicy format has persistent/transient/encrypted and 
      etc..

      

      
This means I can 
      either have a persistent ID or an encrypted ID in the resulting 
      Assertions, which I think one shouldn't preclude the 
      other.

    
The thought behind 
    encrypted was that the IdP would choose whether or not the ID is encrypted 
    depending upon the channel through which the assertion was delivered to the 
    consuming party.  This came about because of one of Liberty's web services 
    invocation models where an assertion is delivered to party A to be delivered 
    to party B through a web service invocation and the encrypted ID was used by 
    the IdP to prevent party A from learning the ID for the user at party 
    B.

So encryption wasn't thought to be a decision made or requested by 
    the SP on an authnRequest, but rather a security decsion by the IdP when the 
    assertion is generated (based upon the IdP's security 
    policies).

Conor