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Title: SCA-Assy - 2007-11-20

   
   
      
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         - DRAFT -
         SCA-Assembly TC Teleconference
         20 NOV 2007
         Attendees
         
            Present
            Charlton Barreto, (Adobe Systems)
            fred carter, (AmberPoint)
            Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
            David DiFranco, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
            Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
            Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)
            Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
            Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
            Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
            Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
            Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
            David Booz, (IBM)
            Jean-Sebastien Delfino, (IBM)
            Mike Edwards, (IBM)
            Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
            Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
            Simon Nash, (IBM)
            Peter Niblett, (IBM)
            Matthew Peters, (IBM)
            Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)
            Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
            Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
            Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
            Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
            Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
            Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
            Ron Barack, (SAP AG*)
            Henning Blohm, (SAP AG*)
            Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)
            Peter Peshev, (SAP AG*)
            Mark Hapner, (Sun Microsystems)
            Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
            Chair
            Edwards and Chapman
            Scribe
            Bob Freund
            Agenda:
            
1. Opening 
Introductions 
Roll call 
Scribe confirmation 
Agenda bashing 
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 6th November
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200710/msg00131.html 
3. Action Items from Previous Meeting 
2007-11-06-1: Dave Booz to weigh his concern and generate a refined proposal that deals with the other aspects of issue 6
2007-11-06-2: Michael Beisiegel to conviene editors to produce a working draft prior to the next meeting 
4. Consider the Idea of an Assembly F2F
Either in late January or at the OASIS Symposium in April.
5. New Issues 
ASSEMBLY-13  Difficulty using source= attribute to pull values into complex types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-13
ASSEMBLY-14 Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14
ASSEMBLY-15 Unclear how Composites are discovered when Referenced 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-15
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
ASSEMBLY-17 Need to define Namespace handling for included Composites
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-17
ASSEMBLY-18 XSD definitions of Component Service and Component Referencehave unintended features
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-18 
ASSEMBLY-19 Schema definition for Component, Component Reference @autowireattribute is incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-19
ASSEMBLY-20 Conflict Between SCA XSD and Specification Body about thehandling of Multi-Valued Properties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-20
ASSEMBLY-21 Binding name attribute not a QName
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-21
ASSEMBLY-22 WSDL extension should not be required for conversations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-22
ASSEMBLY-23 SCA  declarations should use namespace ##other rather than ##any
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-23
ASSEMBLY-24 textual sca:include not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-24
ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25
ASSEMBLY-26 SCA Composite Visibility
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-26
6. Open Issues 
ASSEMBLY-6: usage of not promoted references 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-6 
Following discussion on the email list
7. Conformance Statements in the Assembly Specification 
Following discussion on the email list
8. AOB 
            
         
      

      
      

         Contents
         
            Topics 
            
            [1] 
               opening
            
            [2] 
               Action Item review
            
            [3] 
               Potential Assy TC f2f
            
            [4] 
               New issues
            
            [5] 
               New Issue Assembly-25
            
            [6] 
               New Issue Assembly-26
            
            Table of Resolutions
            Table of Action Items
         
      

      
      

         Action Items
         
            Old:
            2007-11-06-01: id=2007-11-06-01 status=done
            
            2007-11-06-02: id=2007-11-06-02 status=done Updated version sent to editors' mailing list, some work needed by OASIS staff to fix doc respository
            
            New:
         
      

      
      

         Resolutions
         
            
2007-11-20-1: minutes of 2007-11-06 approved w/o
            

            
2007-11-20-2: M:Bob S:Charlton that we tell OASIS no to meeting during the symposium w/o
            

            
2007-11-20-3: Meters: S:Rowley new issue Assembly-13 accepted w/o
            

            
2007-11-20-4: M:Henning S:jeffM new issues Assy-14 - Assy-24 accepted w/o
            

            
2007-11-20-5: M:Rutt S:Karmarkar new issue Assembly-25 accepted w/o
            

            
2007-11-20-6: M:Hapner S:Nash New issue Assembly-26 accepted w/o
            

         
      

      
      

         Minutes
         

            
 Scribe: Bob Freund

         

         

            opening
         

         

            
 

            
meeting is quorate with more than 22 of 35

         

         

            
 

            
agenda agreed w/o

         

         
Resolution: minutes of 2007-11-06 approved w/o
         

         

            Action Item review
         

         
 Action: id=2007-11-06-01 status=done
         

         
 Action: id=2007-11-06-02 status=done Updated version sent to editors' mailing list, some work needed by OASIS staff to fix doc respository
         

         

            Potential Assy TC f2f
         

         

            
Edwards:

            
 Reviews potential of a f2f in conjunction with the OASIS symposium attendent to the request of OASIS staff

         

         

            
Chapman:

            

         

         

            
 

            
... past experience has not been good 

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
oasis has fixed the doc repository problem. Uploading the docs.

         

         

            
Malhotra:

            
 Proposes a longer, four day, face to face which would be divided between Assy and Policy

         

         

            
 

            
... proposed date is the week of 2008-01-21, but so far, no host has volunteered

         

         

            
 

            
... the Policy TC has agreed to not meet at the OASIS symposium

         

         

            
Edwards:

            
 I would favor a face to face in January rather than April due to weighty issues that would be beneficially cleared earlier
               rather than later.
            

         

         

            
Chapman:

            
 recommends that we just say no to OASIS

         

         
Resolution: M:Bob S:Charlton that we tell OASIS no to meeting during the symposium w/o
         

         

            
Edwards:

            
 the suggestion is the week of January 21, are folks generally in favor of that week?

         

         

            
 

            
... Seems that folks are not against the week of January 21

         

         

            
Patil:

            
 Asks about the possibility of simultaneous TC meetings with the other TCs

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
Both the doc and pdf versions are uploaded to the doc repo

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
doc version: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-editors/download.php/26167/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-01.doc

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
pdf version: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly-editors/download.php/26168/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-01.pdf

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
changes from the last version are documented at: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-editors/200711/msg00000.html

         

         

            
 <charlton> 

            
agreed, simul meetings with other TCs will only make things difficult

         

         

            
Karmarkar:

            
 The updated documents have been uploaded to the OASIS web site in the editors' area

         

         

            New issues
         

         

            
Peters:

            
 reviews new issue Assy-13

         

         

            
Peters:

            
 Not clear on how to solve this problem, and I am curious as to what folks think about it.  I think that it is a reasonable
               problem worth solving.
            

         

         

            
 <charlton> 

            
AFAIK

         

         
Resolution: Meters: S:Rowley new issue Assembly-13 accepted w/o
         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
also errata == minor issue/changes

         

         

            
 <TomRutt> 

            
ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25

         

         
Resolution: M:Henning S:jeffM new issues Assy-14 - Assy-24 accepted w/o
         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
The pdf and doc version have been uploaded to the 'Working Draft' folder of the main TC

         

         

            New Issue Assembly-25
         

         

            
Rutt:

            
 Introduces the issue

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
word version: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/26170/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-01.doc

         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
pdf version: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/26171/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-01.pdf

         

         
Resolution: M:Rutt S:Karmarkar new issue Assembly-25 accepted w/o
         

         

            New Issue Assembly-26
         

         

            
Hapner:

            
 Introduces the new issue

         

         

            
 

            
... in Java for example, visibility is enforced by the language.  It is not clear when SCA is used, what component enforces the
               semantics and generates the error
            

         

         
Resolution: M:Hapner S:Nash New issue Assembly-26 accepted w/o
         

         

            
Edwards:

            
 Since time has run out we adjourn

         

         

            
 <Mike Edwards> 

            
Thanks folks

         

         

            
 <Martin C> 

            
roll at: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=16014&day=1195552800
Bob thanks
            

         

      

      

         
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