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Draft Minutes of 2008-10-21 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-10-21
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- DRAFT -
SCA-Assembly
Teleconference
21 OCT 2008
Attendees
Present
fred carter
AmberPoint
Group Member
Mark Combellack
Avaya, Inc.
Group Member
Tom Rutt
Fujitsu Limited*
Group Member
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Bryan Aupperle
IBM
Group Member
Michael Beisiegel
IBM
Group Member
David Booz
IBM
Group Member
Graham Charters
IBM
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Simon Holdsworth
IBM
Group Member
Dieter Koenig
IBM
Group Member
Simon Moser
IBM
Group Member
Simon Nash
Individual
Group Member
Peter Furniss
Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.
Group Member
Jeff Estefan
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
David DiFranco
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Sanjay Patil
SAP AG*
Group Member
Plamen Pavlov
SAP AG*
Group Member
Peter Walker
Sun Microsystems
Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 14th October
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29732/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-10-14.html
3. Action Items:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
4. TC Administrivia
- Decision to cancel Assembly TC meeting of 11th November
(due to SCA Java TC F2F meeting)
5. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
6. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-61: Component type information directly in components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-61
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00014.html
ASSEMBLY-64: Specification inconsistent on whether a default value for Property on a Constraining Type is allowed or not
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-64
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00015.html
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00016.html
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00011.html
Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-36 Compatability of component type side files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-36
Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-47: Interface element needs an operation child element
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-47
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
ASSEMBLY-48: Defaulting composite reference targets to internal components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-48
ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34
ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46
ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86
ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87
ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80
ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2
7. Conformance & Test
8. Issue Status
15 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
9. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Administrivia
[4]
New Issues
[5]
New Issue ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
[6]
Issues of an Uncertain Age
[7]
ASSEMBLY-61: Component type information directly in components http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-61
[8]
ASSEMBLY-64: Specification inconsistent on whether a default value for Property on a Constraining Type is allowed or not http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-64
[9]
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
[10]
Assembly-16
[11]
ASSEMBLY-47: Interface element needs an operation child element http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-47
[12]
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
[13]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Pending:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
New:
id=2008-10-21-1 status=pending Edwards to produce an updated version of the Issue 16 proposal
id=2008-10-21-2 status=pending Edwards to refine the proposal for Assembly-51 and to post to the list
id=2008-10-21-3 status=pending Edwards to kick offdebate on Assembly-48 via the list
Resolutions
2008-10-21-1: Minutes of 2008-10-14 approve w/o
2008-10-21-2: Cancel Assembly-TC meeting of 2008-11-11 due to overlap with Java face to face w/o
2008-10-21-3: m:Karmarkar s:Booz New Issue Assembly-88 opened w/o
2008-10-21-4: m:Edwards s:Booz Close Assembly-61 with no action w/o
2008-10-21-5: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-64 with the proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00015.html w/o
2008-10-21-6: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Resolve Assembly-47 by closing with no action w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Martin Chapman returns from LOA
Opening
Roll - quorate with 17 of 22 voting members
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-10-14 approve w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
Action: id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
Action: id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
Action: id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Administrivia
Resolution: Cancel Assembly-TC meeting of 2008-11-11 due to overlap with Java face to face w/o
New Issues
New Issue ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88
Karmarker introduces his issue
Resolution: m:Karmarkar s:Booz New Issue Assembly-88 opened w/o
Issues of an Uncertain Age
ASSEMBLY-61: Component type information directly in components http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-61
Proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00014.html
Chapman assumes chair
Edwards reviews his proposal to close Assembly-61 with no action.
Motion: m:Edwards s:Booz Close Assembly-61 with no action w/o
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz Close Assembly-61 with no action w/o
ASSEMBLY-64: Specification inconsistent on whether a default value for Property on a Constraining Type is allowed or not http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-64
Proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00015.html
Edwards reviews his proposal
<anish>
nice detailed proposal
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz Resolve Assembly-64 with the proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00015.html w/o
ASSEMBLY-73: What correlation support should SCA provide for callbacks? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-73
Edwards reviews his proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00016.html
<anish>
i'm still confused about the C&I api. why would the c&i expose the underlying format? why would it not just be an object with
the appropriate equals/hash methods
<anish>
the bindings should not be constrained wrt what gets used on the wire. a ws-addressing binding will use a URI to correlate,
some other binding may use something else
further consideration and debate committed to the mailing list
Action: Edwards to produce an updated version of the Issue 16 proposal
Assembly-16
waiting on writeup
and so for others
ASSEMBLY-47: Interface element needs an operation child element http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-47
Aupperle discusses his proposal contained in the Jira entry
<anish>
dave, was you suggestion to include it in componentType but under an interface or under <implementation.cpp>
<Dave Booz>
y
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Resolve Assembly-47 by closing with no action w/o
ASSEMBLY-51: Composite Completeness http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-51
Edwards channels Rowley
Action: Edwards to refine the proposal for Assembly-51 and to post to the list
time: 3.5 min
time 1.2 min
Action: Edwards to kick offdebate on Assembly-48 via the list
AOB
straggler roll
[End of Minutes]
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