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Minutes from 2010-10-05 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-10-05

   
   
      
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         - DRAFT -
         OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
         05 OCT 2010
         Attendees
         Present
         
            

               Robert Freund
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Group Member
            

            

               Eric Wells
               Hitachi, Ltd.
               Group Member
            

            

               Bryan Aupperle
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               David Booz
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Graham Charters
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Diane Jordan
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Peter Niblett
               IBM
               Group Member
            

            

               Jeff Estefan
               Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
               Group Member
            

            

               Martin Chapman
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Anish Karmarkar
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Rich Levinson
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Ashok Malhotra
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Jonathan Maron
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Jeff Mischkinsky
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Gilbert Pilz
               Oracle Corporation
               Group Member
            

            

               Plamen Pavlov
               SAP AG*
               Group Member
            

            

               Eric Johnson
               TIBCO Software Inc.
               Group Member
            

            

               Danny van der Rijn
               TIBCO Software Inc.
               Group Member
            

            

               Scott Vorthmann
               TIBCO Software Inc.
               Group Member
            

         
         Chairs
         
            

               Martin Chapman
               
               
            

            

               Mike Edwards
               
               
            

         
         Scribe
         
            

               Bob Freund
               
               
            

         
         Agenda:1. Intro 

Roll call  
Scribe confirmation  
Agenda bashing  

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting  

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/39643/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%20201.-09-22.html 

3. Action Items  

id=201.-09-22-1.status=pending owner="EricJ" Check spec to see where it may be possible to relax mapping req 
id=201.-09-22-2 status=pending owner="EricJ" Produce example of two differnet languages using non-WSDL IDL
id=201.-09-22-3 status=pending owner="Anish" Produce concrete proposal for ASSEMBLY-241.based on directional resolution in
         F2F minutes 
id=201.-09-22-4 status=done owner="Anish" Raise new issue regarding multiple bindings on channels 
id=201.-09-22-5 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue regarding adopting WS-RA Event Type spec 
id=201.-09-22-6 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue to add eventType declarations to "definitions.xml" 
id=201.-09-22-7 status=pending owner="EricJ" Raise issue as to whether channels should be extensible 
id=201.-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227 
id=201.-09-22-9 status=pending Raise issue WRT cardinality of channels 
id=201.-09-22-1. status=pending Add RFC21.9 to Event portion of1.2 
id=201.-09-22-1. status=pending Define what a binding needs to support for event processing 

4. TC Administrivia  

a) Public Review of Test Suite Adaptation and Implementation Type Documentation Requirements for SCA Assembly Model v1.1.
         
- started on 31.August  
- ends 30 October 201.  

5. New Issues (1.2)  

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243 

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244 

ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245 

ASSEMBLY-246: Add eventType declarations to the schema of definitions.xml 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246 

7.1.2 Specification Open Issues  

ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227  

Proposal  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.04/msg00044.html  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.pdf  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.doc  

Discussion from F2F:  
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/39643/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%20201.-09-22.html  

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL1.1.mapping  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235  

No Proposal  

ASSEMBLY-238: (1.2): eventType element, EventType type declared twice in schema, eventType.xsd used but not defined  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-238  

Proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239  

Proposal in JIRA  

ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233  

No Proposal  

ASSEMBLY-241. binding decl for producer/consumer are problematic  
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-241. 

No proposal  

8. AOB
      

      
      

         Contents
         
            Topics 
            
            [1] 
               Opening
            
            [2] 
               New Issues
            
            [3] 
               Action Items
            
            [4] 
               TC Administrivia
            
            [5] 
               Schedule of next face to face
            
            [6] 
               Effect of TC Process changes
            
            [7] 
               New Issues
            
            [8] 
               New Issue ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
            [9] 
               New Issue ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
            [10] 
               AOB
            
            Table of Resolutions
            Table of Action Items
         
      

      
      

         Action Items
         
            Done:
            id=2010-09-22-1 status=done owner="EricJ" Check spec to see where it may be possible to relax mapping req
            
            id=2010-09-22-2 status=done owner="EricJ" Produce example of two differnet languages using non-WSDL IDL
            
            id=2010-09-22-4 status=done owner="Anish" Raise new issue regarding multiple bindings on channels
            
            id=2010-09-22-5 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue regarding adopting WS-RA Event Type spec
            
            id=2010-09-22-6 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue to add eventType declarations to "definitions.xml"
            
            id=2010-09-22-7 status=done owner="EricJ" Raise issue as to whether channels should be extensible
            
            Pending:
            id=2010-09-22-3 status=pending owner="Anish" Produce concrete proposal for ASSEMBLY-241 based on directional resolution in F2F minutes
            
            id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
            
            id=2010-09-22-9 status=pending owner="Edwards" Raise issue WRT cardinality of channels on consumers and producers
            
            id=2010-09-22-10 status=pending owner="Editors" Add RFC2119 to Event portion of 1.2
            
            id=2010-09-22-11 status=pending owner="Johnson" Define what a binding needs to support for event processing (raise an issue)
            
            New:
            id=2010-10-05-1 status=pending Obtain clarification from TC Admin
            
            id=2010-10-05-2 status=pending Edwards to correct the issue text in Jira s/241/242 in Assembly-244
            
         
      

      
      

         Resolutions
         
            
2010-10-05-1: Minutes from the f2f approved with one editorial correction w/o
            

            
2010-10-05-2: m:Malhotra s:Aupperle Open Assembly-243 w/o
            

         
      

      
      

         Minutes
         

            
 Scribe: Bob Freund

         

         

            Opening
         

         

            

            
Roll - 78% 15 of 19 voting members present

         

         

            

            
Agenda - agreed with two additions, timing of the next f2f meeting and discussion of the impact of the new TC process

         

         

            
 <MartinC> 

            
now 80% 17 of 21

         

         

            

            
-s/assembly 277/227 in the minutes from the face to face

         

         
Resolution: Minutes from the f2f approved with one editorial correction w/o
         

         

            New Issues
         

         

            Action Items
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-1 status=done owner="EricJ" Check spec to see where it may be possible to relax mapping req
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-2 status=done owner="EricJ" Produce example of two differnet languages using non-WSDL IDL
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-3 status=pending owner="Anish" Produce concrete proposal for ASSEMBLY-241 based on directional resolution in
            F2F minutes
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-4 status=done owner="Anish" Raise new issue regarding multiple bindings on channels
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-5 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue regarding adopting WS-RA Event Type spec
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-6 status=done owner="MikeE" Raise issue to add eventType declarations to "definitions.xml"
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-7 status=done owner="EricJ" Raise issue as to whether channels should be extensible
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-9 status=pending owner=Edwards Raise issue WRT cardinality of channels on consumers and producers
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-10 status=pending owner=Editors Add RFC2119 to Event portion of 1.2
         

         
 Action: id=2010-09-22-11 status=pending owner=Johnson Define what a binding needs to support for event processing (raise an issue)
         

         

            TC Administrivia
         

         

            Schedule of next face to face
         

         

            

            
Proposed - Before Christmas

         

         

            
Edwards:

            
If we have another face to face before Christmas, would everyone be able to show up?

         

         

            
 

            
...folks to consider and lets se if we can get a decision next week

         

         

            
 <Bryan Aupperle> 

            
Any specifications that have not been submitted for Public Review or have been submitted but the review has not yet been announced
               on 15 October 2010; or have completed the Public Review process but are not submitted for OASIS Standard Ballot by 13 January
               2011, will be subject to the requirements in Section 3.4 in effect on 15 October 2010.
            

         

         

            Effect of TC Process changes
         

         

            

            
Discussion related to the parsing of the effectivity guidance from TC Admin on the new TC Process

         

         
 Action: Obtain clarification from TC Admin
         

         

            New Issues
         

         

            New Issue ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
         

         
Resolution: m:Malhotra s:Aupperle Open Assembly-243 w/o
         

         

            New Issue ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
         

         

            

            
Johnson introduces his new issue

         

         

            
Niblett:

            
Suggests deferment since there is some concern over the definition of binding

         

         

            

            
Johnson notes that he referenced issue 241 in the issue but ought to have referenced 242

         

         
 Action: Edwards to correct the issue text in Jira s/241/242 in Assembly-244
         

         
Motion: m:Johnson s:Aupperle Open Assembly-244
         

         

            
 <anish> 

            
it will have one channel/binding element. the Q is, if you want more, what do you do?

         

         

            

            
time, gentlemen 2 minutes

         

         

            
Edwards:

            
Since we are out of time, discussion will continue next week

         

         

            AOB
         

         

            

            
straggler roll

         

         

            

            
Adjourned

         

      

      

         
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