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Draft minutes of 2010-12-14 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-12-14
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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
14 DEC 2010
Attendees
Present
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Bryan Aupperle
IBM
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Simon Holdsworth
IBM
Group Member
Diane Jordan
IBM
Group Member
Peter Niblett
IBM
Group Member
Jeff Estefan
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Andreas Egloff
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Rich Levinson
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Ashok Malhotra
Oracle Corporation
Group Member
Plamen Pavlov
SAP AG*
Group Member
Eric Johnson
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Danny van der Rijn
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:1. Intro
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/40520/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%20201.-1.-07.html
3. Action Items
id=201.-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=201.-1.-1.-1.status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251.
id=201.-1.-07-1.status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens
id=201.-1.-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state
of this issue
id=201.-1.-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution
of Assembly-239
4. TC Administrivia
None
5. Open Issues (1.1.
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1.: SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00042.html
Latest news:
Siemens have responded that they have not used the 2 documents to write their own implementation type document so far.
Microsoft responded asking a couple of questions and have promised a full response.
6. New Issues (1.2)
None
7.1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-251. [1.2] There is a need to restrict the Cardinality of connections to Channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-251.
Latest Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00024.html
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.04/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.doc
Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html
ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL1.1.mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235
Outline Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00023.html
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
No Proposal
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC21.9 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
8. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Administrivia | /dev/null
[4]
Open Issues against v 1.1
[5]
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
[6]
Issues against v1.2
[7]
ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250
[8]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Done:
id=2010-11-16-1 status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251
id=2010-12-07-1 status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2010-12-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state of this issue
id=2010-12-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-239
New:
id=2010-12-14-1 status=pending Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline
Resolutions
2010-12-14-1: minutes of 2010-12-07 approved w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll - quorate with 13 of 20 voting members present.
Agenda - bashed agreeably
Resolution: minutes of 2010-12-07 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2010-11-16-1 status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251
Action: id=2010-12-07-1 status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens
Action: id=2010-12-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state
of this issue
Action: id=2010-12-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution
of Assembly-239
Administrivia | /dev/null
Open Issues against v 1.1
ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252
Edwards:
Siemens responded that they approved of the issue resolution but also said that they have not as yet used the documents.
...Microsoft have asked a few questions an have promised a more complete response
<EricW>
Just to be awkward, it could be argued that we need at least one implementation that uses the Implementation Types and Test
Adaption documents!
Action: Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline
Issues against v1.2
ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250
Johnson takes us through his proposal
<anish>
auto-wire to an auto-channel?
<MartinC>
in the absence of other info, wire to the default channel
<anish>
i don't view channels as concrete either
<Mike Edwards>
bad news for the concrete manufacturers ;-)
<MartinC>
was this issue openned? if so Jira is out of date
<Mike Edwards>
you're right Martin - the JIRA is out of date - I'll do a triage after the meeting and fix things
<Mike Edwards>
if this one is missed there will probably be others
<Mike Edwards>
the issues all got opened or (in one case) closed
<anish>
I'm looking at an African elephant
<anish>
or more precisely at the ear of an african elephant ;-)
This issue seems like a distraction to me
<EricW>
+1 to Danny - it seems to me there's a big difference of concepts in the whole SCA eventing space
Would anybody object if we just closed this one and moved on?
<anish>
ericw/danny, that is why we kept channels very abstract
time, gentlemen
<EricW>
It seems to me we are overlaoding the basic concepts and making them quite different from the original scope
<MartinC>
right, this is more about delayed binding to a channel
AOB
straggler roll
adjourned
[End of Minutes]
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