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Draft Minutes of 2011-02-08 Attached
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Title: SCA-Assembly - 2011-02-08
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Oasis SCA-Assembly Teleconference
08 FEB 2011
Attendees
Present
Eric WellsHitachi, Ltd.Group Member
Bryan AupperleIBMGroup Member
David BoozIBMGroup Member
Mike EdwardsIBMGroup Member
Simon HoldsworthIBMGroup Member
Diane JordanIBMGroup Member
Mike KaiserIBMGroup Member
Peter NiblettIBMGroup Member
Jeff EstefanJet Propulsion Laboratory:*Group Member
Anish KarmarkarOracle CorporationGroup Member
Rich LevinsonOracle CorporationGroup Member
Gilbert PilzOracle CorporationGroup Member
Sanjay PatilSAP AG*Group Member
Plamen PavlovSAP AG*Group Member
Eric JohnsonTIBCO Software Inc.Group Member
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Scribe
Eric Wells
Agenda:1. Intro
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/41022/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-02-01.html
3. Action Items
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained
in wsra
4. TC Administrivia
a) Assembly CSD07 status
5. Open Issues (1.1)
None
6. New Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-255: Provide some way to prevent early binding to global domain channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-255
ASSEMBLY-256: Why do global channel references use "//"? Should be single "/" to be consistent with URI syntax
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-256
7. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250
Proposal in JIRA
Follow on discussion from previous meeting
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00030.html
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc
Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00019.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00017.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00016.html
ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00030.html
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00033.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00034.html
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
No Proposal
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246
Proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253
Latest discussion:
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
TC Administrivia
[4]
New Issues (1.2)
[5]
ASSEMBLY-255: Provide some way to prevent early binding to global domain channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-255
[6]
ASSEMBLY-256: Why do global channel references use "//"? Should be single "/" to be consistent with URI syntax
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-256
[7]
Open Issues (1.2)
[8]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Done:
id=2011-02-01-1 status=done owner="EricJ" Create proposal for ASSEMBLY-239
id=2011-02-01-2 status=done owner="PeterN" Create proposal for ASSEMBLY-239
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra
Resolutions
2011-02-08-1: Minutes of 2011-02-01 approved w/o
2011-02-08-2: Close ASSEMBLY-255 with no action - by vote 5 to 3
2011-02-08-3: Open ASSEMBLY-256 w/o
2011-02-08-4: Resolve ASSEMBLY-256 with proposal in JIRA w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Eric Wells
Opening
Roll Call 13/19 = 68% Quorate
Agenda - agreed as posted
Approval of minutes from 2011-02-01
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/41022/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-02-01.html
Resolution: Minutes of 2011-02-01 approved w/o
Action Items
<Mike Edwards>
2 additional action items:
Action: id=2011-02-01-1 status=done owner="EricJ" Create proposal for ASSEMBLY-239
Action: id=2011-02-01-2 status=done owner="PeterN" Create proposal for ASSEMBLY-239
<Mike Edwards>
both of these are now complete, based on emails sent to the list
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained
in wsra
TC Administrivia
a) Assembly CSD07 status
MikeE:
Still no action form OASIS Admin - will need to chase
...Does JAVA TC name issues affect CSD07?
AnishK:
Shouldn't affect Assembly spec
BryanA:
More impact on 1.2 not 1.1
New Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-255: Provide some way to prevent early binding to global domain channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-255
EricJ:
Describes issue
...Problem if reference to GDC is within composite
PeterN:
Related to autocreate - if refering to non-existant GDC in composite
MikeE:
Intention is to allow composite to be provided as an "opaque" item
PeterN:
Same issue could arrise WRT external services & references
AnishK:
But content of package is visible to SCA even if external artifact is unknown
...also depends on how composite is deployed - if at domain level then apparent local channel can be domain channel
...I don't support distinction between global & local channels
EricJ:
Purposely didn't introduce issue WRT service & references - wanted to keep issues separate
<anish>
we don't have similar restriction on reference promotion -- we can't say that the promoted reference must be wired to a service
within the SCA domain (as opposed to an external service with a binding)
EricJ:
Provide clarification between service & reference and GDC situations
Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-255 m=EricJ s=None
motion fails due to lack of second
Motion: Close ASSEMBLY-255 with no action m=AnishK s=MikeK
EricJ:
Understand desire to move forward but how should issue be handled?
MikeE:
Feature is sort of thing handled by tooling
...also runtime deployment checks
...hence don't really need to specify in SCA Assembly model
AnishK:
Don't think it helps assembler - they still need to understand what is required for deployment
...has to create channels and figure out what's connected whether local or global channel
No futher discussion
EricJ:
Speaks against motion
Vote: For 5, Against 3, Abstain 1 - motion suceeds
Resolution: Close ASSEMBLY-255 with no action - by vote 5 to 3
<anish>
i remember there was discussion on this in OSOA, can't remember why we ended up with "//". In fact we had something different
before
ASSEMBLY-256: Why do global channel references use "//"? Should be single "/" to be consistent with URI syntax
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-256
EricJ:
Don't like syntax of "//"
AnishK:
Was changed from OSOA, but can't remember why
PeterN:
Not really RFC compliant anyway
...not used anywhere else
EricJ:
"//" also implies hierarchy (that doesn't exist)
Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-256 m=EricJ s=AnishK
No further discussion no objections
Resolution: Open ASSEMBLY-256 w/o
Consideration of proposed solution - just use single "/"
AnsihK: How does this affect default channel?
MikeE:
"/<blank>" no different from "//<blank>"?
AnishK:
SCA allow all sorts of URI scheme's including hierarchical
...I.E. do we need to explicitly name default channel?
MikeE:
Suggest raising new issue if considered to be a problem
Motion: Resolve ASSEMBLY-256 with proposal in JIRA m=EricJ s=BryanA
No discussion - no objection
Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY-256 with proposal in JIRA w/o
Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00033.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201101/msg00034.html
<Mike Edwards>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00039.html
PeterN:
Reviews his solution (msg00039)
Two minutes left
MikeE:
Out of time today - will add this as first item for discussion during next meeting
AOB
Straggler roll - GilbertP SanjayP
<Mike Edwards>
Thank you for scribing, Eric
<Mike Edwards>
roll is now up to date
EricW:
I can add the link later if needed
EricW:
Roll at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/events.php?day=1297162800
COB 9:02AM PDT
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