Re: [sca-assembly] Private or local channels

From
Mike Edwards <>
Date
2011-02-01T15:52:15+00:00
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Re: [sca-assembly] Private or local channels
Folks,

I tend to sympathise with Anish's view,
with the following motivation:

It is the Assembler of a composite who
makes decisions about the "local  channels".

In my opinion, if the Assembler has
a local channel with no binding, then this is a statement of "privacy"

- only local components can produce/consume
events relating to that channel.  However, it may be that

the Assembler decides to apply a specific
binding to the Channel, in which case the configuration of that

binding may be specifically designed
to allow events to flow to/from other components that might be using

that binding "directly" (eg
JMS queue).  

However, this represents an explicit
decision of the Assembler,

akin to the Assembler choosing to configure
the reference of a component with a binding with a fully

resolved target service address.  It
makes the composite less reusable, it makes assumptions about the

"outside world", but it may
well serve the purposes of the Assembler very well.

Yours, Mike

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From:
Anish Karmarkar <>

To:
OASIS Assembly <>

Date:
01/02/2011 15:08

Subject:
[sca-assembly] Private or local channels

During last week's call Peter and I had a little bit
of back on forth in 

the chat regarding private/local channels. I would like to start a 

discussion on it on the ML before I file an issue (or not, depending on

the outcome of the discussion).

Peter has pointed out that line 2815 of our spec says:

"Channels within a composite used as an implementation are private
to 

the components within that composite. These private channels can only be

the targets for producers existing within the same composite as the 

channel. Private channels can only be sources for consumers existing 

withing the same composite as the channel. An SCA runtime MAY support 

the use of private channels "

Peter's interpretation of this is that composite channels are not 

visible to components outside the composite *and* to anyone outside of

the SCA-world. I have a different interpretation of this. I don't think

our spec should talk about what things outside of SCA do or don't do. We

should allow for enough freedom wrt the technology use to implement the

channels. It could be an in-memory channel that is true invisible to 

anyone outside the process or a JMS topic, which would have visibility

outside of SCA. We currently allow bindings on a composite channel; that

to me indicates that we intended to allow such variability. If folks 

agree with my interpretation, I think we should change the wordings to

replace 'private' with 'local', so as not the give an incorrect impression.

Comments?

-Anish

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