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Re: [sca-assembly] Summarizing the state of ASSEMBLY-235
Eric, From the "Implementation Type Documentation Requirements for SCA Assembly Model Version 1.1 Specification" , section 2.5: Describing an Interface Type associated with an Implementation Type An implementation type might have an associated interface type which it uses when describing the interfaces of services and references. If the implementation type is able to use an existing interface type, e.g., interface.wsdl or interface.java, then the implementation type documentation can simply reference the documentation for that interface type. if the implementation type uses an interface type that is not described in the documentation for some existing implementation type, then the implementation type documentation MUST describe the interface type. [IMP10017] For some new interface type, there are at minimum two pieces of information to provide: • a definition of the interface extension element • a definition of the mapping of the interface type to interface.wsdl. All remotable interfaces MUST be mappable to interface.wsdl. [IMP10030] ... Some other comments inline... Yours, Mike Dr Mike Edwards Mail Point 146, Hursley Park STSM Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN SCA & Services Standards United Kingdom Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC IBM Software Group Phone: +44-1962 818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 (274097) e-mail: From: Eric Johnson <> To: Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB Cc: OASIS SCA Assembly <> Date: 23/02/2011 17:30 Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] Summarizing the state of ASSEMBLY-235 Hi Mike, It sounds like what you're describing, though is a normative constraint on a interface type description that claims to conform to the SCA specification. <mje> Correct - for something claiming CONFORMANCE, I think that is exactly what I'm describing </mje> It sounds like we need either a document, or a section analogous to our "Implementation Type Documentation Requirements for SCA Model Version 1.1 Specification", but for interfaces. The text you're looking for, I think, is on the order of "A definition of an interface must either define how it maps to another defined interface type, and how it maps to WSDL 1.1" <mje> I assume you intended "or" rather than"and" here, given the "either" in the earlier part of the sentence. The problem I see with the earlier part of the either...or is that it is so vague as to be meaningless. Lets say we already have defined & specified (standardized) <interface.a/> and <interface.b/> Now we want to introduce <interface.c/>. If they all map to/from WSDL 1.1, things are simple, I believe. If <interface.c/> does not map to WSDL 1.1, then we will need to define the mapping of <interface.c/> to interface.a and the mapping to <interface.b/> (in both directions, I think). If this is not done, then there is no guarantee that some wire between 2 components that use the different interface types will actually work when run on a given SCA runtime, Perhaps this is what you intend - ie some interface types simply won't work together. To me that is a strange idea of a service - one where the technology used shows through enough to prevent the use of the service by some clients. </mje> -Eric. Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
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