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Draft minutes from 2011-10-18 and 2011-10-25 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-10-18
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- DRAFT -
OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
18 OCT 2011
Attendees
Present
David Booz
IBM
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle
Group Member
Mike Edwards
IBM
Group Member
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Johnson
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Diane Jordan
IBM
Group Member
Mike Kaiser
IBM
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle
Group Member
Ashok Malhotra
Oracle
Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky
Oracle
Group Member
Peter Niblett
IBM
Group Member
Sanjay Patil
SAP AG
Group Member
Danny van der Rijn
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Agenda:1. Intro
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/43546/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-09-13.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/43770/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-10-04.pdf
3. Action Items
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-12-1 status=pending Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of
exit criteria.
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future
publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec
and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141
to 1.2
4. TC Administrivia
a) Discussion of Mutual References between SCA specs
ongoing
5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established
by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257
Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html
(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event
processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
8. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
TC Administrivia
[4]
1.2 Spec Open Issues
[5]
ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established
by definitions.xml http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257
[6]
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
[7]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Dropped:
id=2011-07-12-1 status=dropped Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of exit criteria.
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
New:
id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which
ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality)
do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end
to end
Resolutions
2011-10-18-1: minutes of September 13 2011 agreed w/o
2011-10-18-2: minutes of October 4 2011 agreed w/o
2011-10-18-3: m: Johnson s:Freund Assembly 257 resolved with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html w/o
Minutes
Opening
<Bob>
Roll - 10 of 14 voting members present
<Bob>
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: minutes of September 13 2011 agreed w/o
Resolution: minutes of October 4 2011 agreed w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-12-1 status=dropped Mischkinsky to prepare proposals for augmentation of
exit criteria.
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future
publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec
and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141
to 1.2
TC Administrivia
<Bob>
designated cross-reference process changes have been approved at the Board
1.2 Spec Open Issues
ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established
by definitions.xml http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257
Motion: m: Johnson Assembly 257 resolved with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html
Resolution: m: Johnson s:Freund Assembly 257 resolved with the proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html w/o
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
<Bob>
proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html
Action: Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which
ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
AOB
Action: Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality)
do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end
to end
<Bob>
straggler roll
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Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-10-25
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- DRAFT -
OASIS SCA-Assembly TC
25 OCT 2011
Attendees
Present
David Booz
IBM
Group Member
Martin Chapman
Oracle
Group Member
Robert Freund
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Eric Johnson
TIBCO Software Inc.
Group Member
Diane Jordan
IBM
Group Member
Mike Kaiser
IBM
Group Member
Anish Karmarkar
Oracle
Group Member
Ashok Malhotra
Oracle
Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky
Oracle
Group Member
Peter Niblett
IBM
Group Member
Sanjay Patil
SAP AG
Group Member
Gilbert Pilz
Oracle
Group Member
Eric Wells
Hitachi, Ltd.
Group Member
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html
(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event
processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
TC Administrivia
[4]
v1.2 Issues
[5]
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
[6]
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
[7]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Pending:
id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future publication
id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec and generate a proposal
id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141 to 1.2
id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in the Policy spec and establish which
ones might apply to Event processing and which probably do not apply
id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality)
do a worked example of how it might apply in the Event Processing space - from end
to end
New:
id=2011-10-25-1 status=pending Chapman to discuss public review feedback with chet at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
id=2011-10-25-2 status=pending Karmarkar to produce a proposal for Assembly-243
Resolutions
2011-10-25-1: m:Johnson s:Karmarkar Close Assembly-244 with no action w/o
Minutes
<Dave Booz>
Hi folks, I assume we're having a call but we dont have the leader code for Mike's
callin?
<Bob>
agenda?
<Peter Niblett>
I don't either
<Diane>
hi all - having no luck finding mike's host code
<Bob>
Given the lack of agenda I would propose canceling todays call
<anish>
do we have an agenda for the call?
<Bob>
none that I am aware of
<Ashok Malhotra (Oracle)>
No agenda
<MartinC>
1.2 issues?
<Diane>
if we want to redial with this Participant Code: 7124335 i can start it
<Bob>
Which are?
<Eric Johnson>
Policy discussion, I think.
<Bob>
ok I will redial
<Ashok Malhotra (Oracle)>
We could talk about 233, Peter is in the chat
<Eric Johnson>
I'm redialing...
<Bob>
233 woiuld be good
<anish>
here is the agenda from last time --
<anish>
5. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)
ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established
by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257
Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00019.html
ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233
Proposal in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201109/msg00021.html
(plus a LOT of discussion on the email list !)
ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227
Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Outline proposal in JIRA
ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247
No proposal
ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event
processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248
No proposal
<MartinC>
you beat me too it anish
<Diane>
for anyone who missed it above - redial with this Participant Code: 7124335
Scribe: Bob Freund
chair:
Martin Chapman
Opening
Roll - quorate with 9 of 12 voting members present
Action Items
<MartinC>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
Action: id=2011-07-19-1 status=pending Booz to prepare a clean wd working draft for future
publication
Action: id=2011-08-02-2 status=pending Karmarkar to do a 2119 fly-specing job on the 1.2 spec
and generate a proposal
Action: id=2011-08-23-1 status=pending Version 1.2 editors to apply the resolution of Assembly-141
to 1.2
Action: id=2011-10-18-1 status=pending Ashok to Go through the existing Policy intents in
the Policy spec and establish which ones might apply to Event processing and which
probably do not apply
Action: id=2011-10-18-2 status=pending Anish et alia to develop an example - For a particular
Policy intent type (eg Confidentiality) do a worked example of how it might apply
in the Event Processing space - from end to end
TC Administrivia
Chapman:
We received feedback from TC-Admin
comment here http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
Action: Chapman to discuss public review feedback with chet at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/201110/msg00008.html
<anish>
thank the commenter for the feedback. 1) we would like to keep the pdf links as they
are authoritative, 2) the link to 08 version was intentional, 3) would be willing
to change the citation format during DCR changes
v1.2 Issues
ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243
Chapman:
any volunteer for a proposal
Action: Karmarkar to produce a proposal for Assembly-243
ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244
Resolution: m:Johnson s:Karmarkar Close Assembly-244 with no action w/o
AOB
straggler roll
adjourned
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