raw chat log 10th Dec 2009

anjay: Agenda:
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of minutes
2009-11-19 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200912/msg00003.html

5. Review of Action Items
#0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly tests

#0115 Mike Edwards - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)

#0117 Danny - Create a new issue and a proposal for the 0..1 case (related to issue 53)

6. New Issues
None

7. Testing
MikeE to send instructions for running the tests
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026

8. New SCA namespace
See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200912/msg00000.html

9. Concall schedule
Suggestion: to cancel the calls on 24th dec and 31st dec

10. Issue Discussion

a) Issue 53 - BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 - how are they supposed to work?

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
Issue was resolved on 9/17/09
Latest email discussion - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00019.html

b) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL
process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Awaiting a new proposal from MikeE based on 2009-10-29 concall discussions

c) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)

11. AOB

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Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 9/3/9): 11
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2009-10-15): 2
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 10/22/09): 10
* Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 10/29/09): 1
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 11/05/09): 13
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2009-11-12): 14
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-11-19): 13

 
Martin C: Scribe: Martin C
Martin C: Topic: Agenda
Martin C: Approved as posted
Martin C: Topic: minutes
Martin C: 2009-11-19 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200912/msg00003.html
Martin C: Approved w/o
Martin C: topic: Action Items
Martin C: #0109 Mike Edwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
Martin C: Ongoing. Please try by next call!
Martin C: #0115 Mike Edwards - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the
nested-if)
Martin C: ongoing
Martin C: #0117 Danny - Create a new issue and a proposal for the 0..1 case (related to issue 53)
Martin C: ongoing
Martin C: Topic: new issues
Martin C: none
Martin C: topic: testing
Martin C: Awaiting AI #0109
Martin C: topic: SCA Namespace
Martin C: Mike E informs the TC that the Assembly has revised its namespace.

 
Mike Edwards: New namespace:
Mike Edwards: xmlns:sca="http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912"

 
Martin C: Mike E aks whether any other updates are required from the SCA BPEL TC.

 
Mike Edwards: New XSD files:
Mike Edwards: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/SCA_XSDS/#_SCA_XSDS_

 
Martin C: Mike E moves that the TC adopts the new SCA namespace above for the next rev of the spec and xsds.
Martin C: 2nd danny
Martin C: Passed w/o
Martin C: ACTION: Editors to update the SCA BPEL spec to reference the latest namespace/XSD.
Martin C: ACTION: Editors to check the SCA BPEL xsd

 
Mike Edwards: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/SCA_XSDS/sca-implementation-bpel-1.1-cd03.xsd

 
Martin C: topic: back to AI
Martin C: AI #0117
Martin C: Sanjay asks Danny on progress. Danny says action was assigned when he wasnt here. Not sure an issue needs to be raised.
Martin C: Mike E: only way to do this currently is to try a partnerlink and if it faults you know it is 0
Martin C: Martin C: need an extension to determine if a PL is valid or not to map to 0..1
Martin C: Danny: the discussion seemed a bit more broad, but if its an extension/xpath then could raise an issue.
Martin C: Danny: there may be some other bottom up ambiguities as well
Martin C: Issue 53 partially covers some of this case, but is closed, but the new AI is specfic to the 0..1 case
Martin C: s/but/so/
Martin C: Danny wil be happy to raise new issues, but not before 2010
Martin C: s/wil/will
Martin C: topic: call schedule
Martin C: The calls on 24th dec and 31st dec are cancelled.
Martin C: next call Jan 7th
Martin C: next call Jan 7th
Martin C: next call Jan 7th
Martin C: topic: Issues
Martin C: Issue 53 - BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 - how are they supposed to work?
Martin C: Purpose of the discussion is to scope the new issue
Martin C: Danny: happy to share current thoughts but its only an outline proposal.
Martin C: From BPEL all we have are PartnerLinks and the current algorithm.
Martin C: 0..1 stems from initialpartnerrole=false
Martin C: but the runtime must be able to fill this in providing supplied by assembler
Martin C: the problem is when there is no value
Martin C: esp if a wire is provided. this has not been said.
Martin C: if assembly provides a value the runtime must provide the value.
Martin C: this is outside scope of plain old bpel but inscope of a sca bpel runtime.
Martin C: will be 0 IFF there is no wire.
Martin C: an xpath function may still be required.
Martin C: There are two aspects but one issues should be able to cover both angles
Martin C: topic: AOB
Martin C: Dieter asks about his action item.
Martin C: Mike is making an assumption that the next version of SCA BPEL is CD03
Martin C: Dieter has edited cd02 rev 5
Martin C: next calls 17 dec 2009, then 7 jan 2010
Martin C: meeting adjourned.