RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

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Orchard, David <>
Date
2001-01-26T17:29:10+00:00
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RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)
Title: RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

How 
about dropping the Access part, and call it XCES (perhaps a bit xcessive though 
:-).

 

One 
problem with the name is that it's not as much about credential exchange as 
results of credential exchanges.

 

Dave

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Epstein 
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:06 
  AM
To: Carlisle Adams; 'Eve L. Maler'; OASIS SSTC 
  List
Subject: RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

  
Great suggestion!  Perhaps almost as 
  importantly, a quick search didn't find any significant products that already 
  use this acronym.  (There are several companies, etc., but nothing that 
  should cause confusion.)  Perhaps most telling, feeding the words Active 
  XML Credentials Exchange Specification into Google hit several pages related 
  to this effort near the top of the list... so it must be at least related to 
  what we're doing at a buzzword level :-)

  
 

  
--Jeremy

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlisle Adams 
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 
    11:53 AM
To: ; 'Eve L. 
    Maler'
Subject: RE: New Name ! (A new 
    suggestion)

    
Hi, 

    
I believe that the 
    group has (rough) consensus that "S2ML" should be changed as the overall 
    name of this OASIS TC spec because "Security Services" is too broad.  
    I, for one, would not want to be in the shoes of the PR spokesperson 
    (currently Eve!) trying to explain to some analyst or press representative 
    why XKMS -- which is clear a security service -- is not within the scope of 
    this TC.

    
Perhaps not 
    surprisingly, I have no objections to "A2ML", but I can understand the 
    hesitation on the part of some who either feel that "Authentication" implies 
    too much, or that "Authentication and Authorization" may be too narrow in 
    scope.

    
Therefore, I will offer 
    another name for consideration (if only so that we have some competition for 
    SEX-ML!).  It seems to me that what this group would like to do is 
    create a specification for the exchange of credentials.  These 
    credentials (today covering both authentication credentials and 
    authorization credentials, but open in the future to other kinds of 
    credentials that we may choose to embrace) will be expressed in XML.  
    Furthermore, I think it is fair to say that the payload to be exchanged will 
    always include at least one "active" -- that is, currently valid -- 
    credential (name assertion, entitlement assertion, whatever).

    
Thus, my suggestion 
    is:  "Active XML Credentials Exchange Specification", which has the 
    intuitive and somewhat appropriate acronym "AXCES" (pronounced 
    "access").

    
Carlisle.