RE: [security-services] Credentials collection proposal

From
Hal Lockhart <>
Date
2002-09-30T22:04:33+00:00
ID
Thread
RE: [security-services] Credentials collection proposal
Title: Credentials collection proposal

Mike,

 

I 
don't know if you have developed usecases for this proposal.

 

On 
reflection, this proposal does not appear to support what I consider to be the 
"bread and butter" use  case. In this usecase, a pool of web or application 
servers communicate with browsers via HTTP or HTTPS. these servers, in turn 
communicate with a small number of central servers which have access to one or 
more repositories containing user information including passwords. The web or 
application servers act as credentials collectors, either collecting passwords 
via HTTP basic auth or form post or by terminating SSL/TLS links with client 
certs (other AuthN methods may be supported as well). The web/app servers act as 
PEPs and perhaps PDPs. The central servers act as AuthN Authorities, Attribute 
Authorities and perhaps PDPs.

 

This 
is the configuration of most WAM products, including, I believe Entrust's. In 
this environment, is is not satisfactory to require each web/app server to 
access the multiple repositories to verify passwords, which is what I understand 
your proposal to require.

 

Please 
tell me how I have misunderstood you ability to support this usecase or how in 
fact it can be supported.

 

Regards,

 

Hal

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Just 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:04 
  PM
To: ''
Subject: 
  [security-services] Credentials collection proposal

  
As promised, here's a short (just 3 1/2 pages) proposal for 
  incorporating credentials collection (i.e. a *new* authentication request) 
  into SAML 2.0.  We can discuss on the conference call on Tuesday. 
  

  
Cheers, 
Mike 

  
P.S. Apologies if the schema I've included is horribly 
  incorrect.