Yes, being a non-voting member seems to alleviate the concern, if I read
Rob's concern correctly, while enabling appropriate licensing
obligations to be created.
regards, Frederick
Frederick Hirsch
Nokia
-----Original Message-----
From: ext Conor P. Cahill [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:28 AM
To: Philpott, Robert
Cc: ; ;
Subject: Re: [security-services] RE: [members] OASIS member review of
proposed revision of TC Process
So, my initial reaction was to emphatically agree with Rob's comments,
but I took a further look and see that the issue isn't as significant as
it may at first seem.
In the proposed TC Prcess, there are 3 types of people who may be
associated with a TC:
* A Voting Member (someone who maintains voting rights)
* A Member (someone who doesn't maintain voting rights, but
does participate in the list and discussions, meetings, etc.)
* An Observer (a lurker).
So, someone who does not want to vote (or just can't maintain the voting
status) can continue to participate heavily by just being a (non-voting)
Member.
Most of us had previously used the "Observer" status for this kind of
participation.
Conor
Philpott, Robert wrote on 10/12/2004, 6:25 PM:
> I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to
the > TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able
to post > to the TC's mailing list.
>
> >From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC
discussions > and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote
and does not > need to maintain attendance."
>
> >From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an
Eligible > Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may
attend TC > meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email
list > discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make
Contributions > to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is
defined in the > section "TC Membership and Participation".
>
> I STRONGLY disagree with making this change. The SSTC has over 260
> members, of which 40-50 are active voting members. However, our TC >
regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from >
members that don't have currently active voting status. These postings
> are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list
because > those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to
find some > other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up
barriers in > front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not
receiving that > input at all.
>
> The input from these members is very important to us. I believe this
to > be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free
exchange of > ideas that we rely on.
>
> Rob Philpott
> Senior Consulting Engineer
> RSA Security Inc.
> Tel: 781-515-7115
> Mobile: 617-510-0893
> Fax: 781-515-7020
> mailto:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:] > > Sent:
Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM > > To: members > > Subject:
[members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC > Process > >
> > OASIS members:
> >
> > You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on
a > > revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity
to > > give feedback on that proposed revision.
> >
> > The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC
Process, > > the document that governs the creation and operation of
TCs at OASIS, > > and the advancement and approval of the work they do.
This revision > > includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the
Technical Advisory Board > > (TAB), and other members. It also includes
changes required to support > > the new IPR Policy; because these two
documents rely on each other > they > > must be revised, approved, and
become effective at the same time.
> >
> > The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised
Process; > > this review will start today and go until 10 November. A
draft of the > > revised TC Process document approved for member review
by the Board is > > found at > >
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
> > only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf.
> >
> >
> > A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
> > only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf
> >
> > Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
> > by 10 November, so that
the > > Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft,
and have > > the Process document ready to be effective at the same
time as the new > > IPR Policy.
> >
> > -Karl
> >
> > =================================================================
> > Karl F. Best
> > Vice President, OASIS
> > office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648
> > http://www.oasis-open.org
> >
> >
> >
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