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Re: [security-services] Re: Dutch eID Preso follow up. RE: Proposed Minutes for SSTC Call (Nov 25, 2014)

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2014-12-09T23:49:20+00:00
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Re: [security-services] Re: Dutch eID Preso follow up. RE: Proposed Minutes for SSTC Call (Nov 25, 2014)
On 12/9/14, 10:07 PM, "Martijn Kaag" <> wrote:


>
>I agree, but there are several challenges:
>
>* They need to communicate the requested attributes at runtime. For 
>several reasons, AttributeConsumingServiceIndex is insufficient (there 
>may be more than
>65535 different combinations of requested attributes). 

That only holds if you signal some attributes as required vs. just 
handling the error at the SP, but that's fine. It's a trivial extension. 
And yet in ten years nobody who actually has the problem is willing to 
work on specifying it? That's hard to take seriously, for me.

>* They need to communicate about the (authenticated) subject with more 
>than one attribute.

And so there are multiple Attributes in any statement. I don't see the 
problem there.

> 
>* They need specific user consent for every released attributes.

That's out of scope of SAML, but there are plenty of implementations that 
do that. Even Shibboleth's about to.

>Another option would bean authnrequest with a set of requested attributes 
>in the extension.

The other option is to invent a query profile that adds back in all of the 
security content, subject confirmation rules, etc. from the SSO profile. I 
think that's a lot more work.

-- Scott
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