RE: [ubl-lcsc] ISSUE: Nesting and Containership within Schema

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RE: [ubl-lcsc] ISSUE: Nesting and Containership within Schema
I'll 
start...

 

Excellent paper.  
One additional possibility is to have a "rule" regarding the minimum number of 
elements that can comprise a container.  For instance, in an example from 
the paper we can have:

 

<tax.identifier>

      
<tax.identifier.code>

</tax.identifier>

 

Does it make sense to 
have a container with only a single element?  I'm not sure, but I just 
wanted to bring the issue up.  I also know this may be tough to enforce, 
since we can have containers that contain all optional 
elements.

 

Regards,

Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Seaburg 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:23 
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To: Ubl-Lcsc
Subject: [ubl-lcsc] ISSUE: Nesting and 
  Containership within Schema

  
Okay Library Content Group, time to get to 
  work.  This is an invitation to discuss, keep this thread going to help 
  us find resolution.  Thanks.

  
 

  
ISSUE IS:  The 
  structure of the business documents within the library seems unusually flat by 
  XML, OO, and database standards. 

  
 

  
**********Comments**********************

  
NDR 
  Comment:  While we're not against the use of sequences, we 
  suspect that developers may find it more useful to have collections of 
  elements that are "rolled up" into container elements at an intermediate level 
  (for example, rows 30-31 for country sub- entities).  The classic chunking standard for 
  human memory is 7 +/- 2, and standard operating procedure for software 
  developers and database designers is to use this standard.

  
 

  
We 
  also note that there's a lot of optionality of elements.  For example, 
  there's nothing required in Address.  Are there interoperability 
  consequences to this?  
  
If the context methodology is sufficient, is it better to 
  allow optional elements to be made required or better to allow removal of 
  elements? [Row 22]

  
Would intermediate containers help this situation at all 
  (e.g., you can make the container optional and the contents required)? How is 
  the "sweet spot" determined on this?  
  As another example, we know that there will be other kinds of things 
  that we want to consider line items, but each kind will have a different 
  combination/cardinality of contents.  
  We want to have a rule that the structures have the maximum number of 
  required contents, and where splitting the structure into multiples will help, 
  it should generally be done.  
  
Example: 
  Line items contain at least quantity (1), part number (2), and description 
  (3). In certain stages of the process, they also contain price information 
  (4), tax information (5), and shipping information (6).  So you have really four kinds of line 
  item: order, invoice, shipping, and catalog.  These should be considered different 
  rows.

  
 

  
 

  
Our 
  comment from the last face to face:   We agree.  The usage of Optional and Mandatory 
  elements needs to be revisited on a whole.  This needs to be captured in our 
  methodology.  
  

  
 

  
Arofan has written a containership document that has 
  not been finished yet.  It is attached.

  
 

  
Tim's methodology paper addresses this also, you can 
  also use that as reference.

  
 

  
 

  
 

  
 

  
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