[ubl-lcsc] [QA Team] Email on comments 1.1 - 1.3

This apparently has already been out to the list once. 
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:06:28 +0800
From: Tim McGrath <>
Subject: Re: [ubl-lcsc] UBL - comment
To: Robert Shmit <>
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Thanks Robert - your comment is acknowledged and will be incorporated 
into our formal review. I hope you will be satisifed with our response.

Robert Shmit wrote:

>My comment about platform specific may have been a bit
>strong. I agree with Jon B's comment here and reflects
>the spirit of my concern. Just use XML.
>Robert
>
>
>--- Tim McGrath <> wrote:
>  
>
>>Can I just jump in with a procedural comment.
>>
>>I understood we had agreed to collate all comments
>>and have the 
>>QA/editing team assemble them into topics that we
>>would address after 
>>the close of the period.
>>
>>Are we jumping in to publicly debate each comment as
>>it comes up?  This 
>>is why we didn't ask for comments to go to the
>>comment list. I would 
>>suggest we hold off publishing comments until we are
>>ready to deal with 
>>them collectively.  In the meantime, let the
>>QA/Editing team deal with 
>>them and seek further clarification, etc if
>>necessary.
>>
>>PS
>>Robert, you are probably not aware of how ironic
>>your comment was - 
>>hence our urge to share it!
>>
>>Jon Bosak wrote:
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>>>Robert Shmit's point -- that we should be using
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>>standard formats
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>>>for stylesheets and other documentation -- is well
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>>taken.  When we
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>>>began the UBL effort there were no such standards,
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>>but with the
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>>>creation of openoffice -- a complete, free,
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>>open-source office
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>>>productivity suite that saves everything as XML --
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>>and the
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>>>contribution of the openoffice XML formats to
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>>OASIS, there's
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>>>really no reason for continuing this practice.
>>>
>>>It's true, as Ken points out, that openoffice can
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>>open all the
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>>>.xls files without complaint, but that doesn't
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>>change the fact
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>>>that we're publishing an important part of our
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>>specifications
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>>>using a proprietary data format.  As long as we
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>>persist in this
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>>>practice, we will be forever bound to make the open
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>>source suite
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>>>implement the proprietary format.  Also, the fact
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>>that the
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>>>openoffice format is XML should make it easier (in
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>>principle) to
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>>>maintain the perl script used to generate the xsd.
>>>
>>>The OASIS eGov technical committee set the example
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>>I think we
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>>>should be following at its first meeting in
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>>Baltimore last month
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>>>when it decided that it would use only OASIS
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>>formats for its
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>>>papers and specifications.  I think that we should
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>>adopt the same
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>>>policy.
>>>
>>>It seems to me that the 0p70 review cycle is the
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>>perfect
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>>>opportunity to get all of our formats over to
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>>openoffice before we
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>>>have to publish the next big release in May.  We
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>>have to figure
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>>>out how to publish UBL Part 2 as a single document
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>>in this span
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>>>anyway, so we might as well make the changeover at
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>>the same time.
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>>>Let's talk about this some more when we meet in
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>>Denver Monday.
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>>>Jon
>>>
>>>  Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:29:10 -0500
>>>  From: "G. Ken Holman"
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>><>
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>>>  At 2003-01-28 09:13 -0800, Bill Meadows wrote:
>>>  >Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>>>  >  I never thought I'd be accused of this...
>>>
>>>  :{)}
>>>
>>>  Not sure what he is complaining about:
>>>
>>>  (1) - Open Office seems to open all .xls files
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>>without complaint
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>>>  (2) - the schemas, instances and stylesheets are
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>>platform independent
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>>>  (3) - the "ubl.bat" file (not that he needs to
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>>run it to use the library) 
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>>>  contains only one active line which is a Perl
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>>invocation, so could be 
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>>>  considered documentation rather than mandatory
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>>execution
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>>>  (4) - my stylesheet rebuilding processes (linked
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>>from the deliverable) are 
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>>>  all in Python
>>>
>>>  I don't see anything jump out at me as platform
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>>specific to warrant his 
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>>>  comment.
>>>
>>>  ....................... Ken
>>>
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>>-- 
>>regards
>>tim mcgrath
>>fremantle  western australia 6160
>>phone: +618 93352228  fax: +618 93352142 
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>=====
>Robert Shmit
>Shmit Technologies LLC.
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tim mcgrath
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