Title: RE: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 6 March 2002 UBL NDR meeting
To everyone,
My most humble apologies. I got wrapped up in a client crisis and forgot the time. Thank you Matt for taking minutes.
Mark
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> From: Matthew Gertner [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:03 PM
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> Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 6 March 2002 UBL NDR meeting
>
>
> The meeting was unchaired but we went forward anyway.
>
> 1. Roll call
> Bill Burcham YES
> Mavis Cournane YES
> Mark Crawford
> Fabrice Desré
> John Dumay
> Matt Gertner YES
> Arofan Gregory YES
> Phil Griffin
> Eduardo Gutentag YES
> Eve Maler
> Dale McKay
> Joe Moeller
> Sue Probert
> Ron Schuldt
> Lisa Seaburg
> Gunther Stuhec YES
> Paul Thorpe
>
> Quorum not reached as of x:15. We proceeded informally.
>
> 1'. Next week's call
> No real chair. Needs to be discussed on the list.
>
> 2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meetings
>
> Deferred.
>
> 3. Adoption of agenda
>
> Short discussion of Bill's paper
> Elements vs. attributes
>
> Adopted informally. Other items deferred.
>
> 4. Action item review
>
> Deferred.
>
> 5. Tag names
>
> Short discussion of Bill's paper. Arguments made both for and against
> binding tag names in various ways to type names. Action to
> everyone to read
> latest version of Bill's paper (will be posted to list) as
> input for final
> decision.
>
> 6. Elements vs. attributes
>
> Gunther has a new position paper. He argues that attributes
> could be used
> more than previously discussed. An example in currency code:
> making it an
> attribute eliminates the need for additional child elements, is more
> readable and is more efficient. Also proposed for:
>
> * ID/IDREF
> * xml:lang (Arofan points out that there are difficulties
> enumerating this
> in practical cases, Gunther says that another attribute could
> be used for
> this purpose)
>
> Gunther says he still has to outline treatment of empty
> elements. Arofan
> says that a lot of elements will be empty in this case, since
> all data will
> be in attributes (which Eduardo doesn't like), but Gunther
> says this is not
> so: the value itself will be in the element content.
>
> Arofan points out one possible problem, which is when there
> is structure in
> the value (e.g. exchange rate info). This might be solved by
> using mixed
> content, which no one likes. Eduardo says that this can be
> solved using new
> attributes or sibling elements.
>
> In general, consensus that elements be used for data and
> attributes for
> metadata, as per Gunther's paper. One caveat from Arofan (no
> example given)
> is if metadata needs to have structure, in which case it has to use
> elements.
>
> 7. Adjourn
> Adjourned y:00.
>
>
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