Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009

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Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009
Mark,
Thank you for your comment and setting me straight. I must confess that I am not very into XML and just jumping into either the UBL or the UNCEFACT NDR seems quiite ominous. Could you share a little more insight into this? Thanks
Andy

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-Andy and Ken,

 

You need to read the UBL and UN/CEFACT NDRs to 
understand why the SCs are not present or required in the UDT.  This 
is a deliberate action and not a mistake.  Further, the CCT schema is 
non-normative and should not be used in your deliberations.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Mark

 

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Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009

I guess I 
should have asked first if the ccl8b spreadsheets were also incomplete. UDTs are 
included in the spreadsheets as a separate sheet....It  seems that if they 
aren't in the spreadsheets, then its not TMGs problem but TBGs 
problem....

Andy

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At 2009-05-12 09:59 -0400, Jon Bosak wrote: >Minutes of 
Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 May 2009 >... > GKH: The latest UDT from 
UN/CEFACT is different from the UDT > used in UBL 2.0; the CCTS metadata in 
our UDT is labled 1.0, > whereas the metadata in the D08B version is labeled 
2.01. But > the D08B UDT still does not contain attributes reflecting > 
supplementary components of all the core component types. For > example, it 
is missing the Quantity type supplementary > component with the DEN "Quantity 
Unit. Code List > Agency. Identifier" (see page 100 of the A4 version of CCTS 
> 2.01). Since the current UDT is insufficient for our purposes, > we will 
have to create our own instantiation of the CCTS 2.01 > Core Components as 
XML data types. > > ACTION: GKH to create a UBL 2.1 UDT that instantiates 
all > the supplementary components of CCTS 2.01. > > AGREED (pending 
further discussion in the Atlantic call) to > share this with UN/CEFACT for 
possible use in 09A. Per Andy's suggestion in the Pacific call, rather than work 
from scratch I've edited the UnqualifiedDataType_7p0.xsd file found in 
D08B_draft_20090422.zip that Andy gave me. Thanks for the direction, Andy. The 
UnqualifiedDataType_7p0_mod.xsd file is attached in a Zip file (rename .zzz to 
.zip if you haven't already made the file association in your system. It is 
labeled with the version 20090513-0220z. I've annotated at the top of the file 
all the changes I've made. All the names and descriptions were copied and pasted 
from CCTS V2.01 table 8-2. Note that I've suggested changing one of the type 
names, IDType to IdentifierType, as that what we've used in UBL 2.0 ... but 
really that change isn't important. Since we are generating new schemas for UBL 
2.1 we can just as easily point to IDType rather than IdentifierType and still 
have UBL 2.0 instances validate with UBL 2.1. I just made the note in case it 
was an oversight on the part of UN/CEFACT abbreviating the object class as well 
as the other components of the dictionary entry name. I've also added *all* of 
the supplementary components and not just the ones we need for instance-level 
metadata identification. So with the addition of these supplementary components 
we can now support the use cases identified for UBL 2.1. Please review the 
attachment ASAP and let me know of any changes you'd like to see me make. Once 
comments are addressed we'll send this to UN/CEFACT ASAP in order to have it 
considered for the upcoming "09A" release. If we can get them to release this as 
part of their package, then we'll use their version unmodified in UBL 2.1. 
Thanks for your input! . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken Here are the excerpts from 
the original UnqualifiedDataType_7p0.xsd: 
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