RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons

From
"Oatrick Dhan"
Date
2005-06-23T00:09:08+00:00
ID
Thread
RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and UDDI comparisons
Hi 
all,

 

I 
agree with Governor.  I am currently at the Asia ebXML EAC meeting in 
Hong Kong.  We have seen quite a number of

case 
studies in Asia revolving on work that utilises ebXML (e.g. DTTN (Digital 
Transportation and Trading Network) in Hong Kong

that 
leverages ebMS but not the registry at the moment,  e-Taiwan 
project, Sony Music in Hong Kong etc.).

 

Regards,

Dr.Patrick Chan

OASIS

Asia-Pacific Representative

Mobile: +65 96288583

Email: 

www.oasis-open.org

 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Governor James 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 
  PM
To: Daniel Feygin; Jørgen Thyme; 
  
Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry 
  and UDDI comparisons

  

  
An awful lot of 
  functionality that gets shipped is never used. That is the software business – 
  like you say “consumer empowerment sales tactic”.

  
 

  
The built in support 
  for UDDI has been there for a while, and adoption is still more limited than 
  you would expect. My word processor has built in support for French characters 
  and spelling but that doesn’t mean I use the 
  functions.

  
 

  
I could not agree 
  more with this statement: “I do believe 
  that ebXML Registry has a defensible niche in B2B collaboration in specific 
  verticals. Whether there is enough of a vendor ecosystem and innovation around 
  ebXML to sustain it is another matter.”

  
 

  
Healthcare 
  and automotive seem to be areas with the most current adoption. You might also 
  look at geos – ebXML is a bit hotter in Asia Pac.

  
 

  
 

  

  

  
  

  
From: Daniel Feygin 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: 22 June 2005 15:44
To: 'Jørgen Thyme'; 
  
Subject: RE: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry 
  and UDDI comparisons

  
 

  

  
Jørgen,

  

  
 

  

  
I personally 
  do not see any new ebXML registries coming or a compelling reason for them to 
  come. The only viable ebXML Registry implementations I know of (Infravio [1] 
  and Sun [2]) support both ebXML and UDDI, which I take as a consumer 
  empowerment sales tactic. In my admittedly biased view, the momentum is 
  certainly on the UDDI side with all SOA-enabling infrastructure 
  (message/protocol intermediation brokers, development and management 
  tools) shipping with built-in support for UDDI only. Because registry is not 
  so much a feature of an architecture as it is its platform supporting specific 
  capabilities, its value is proportional to the number of systems that leverage 
  it. There simply isn't enough of a market opportunity or a viable go-to-market 
  strategy for an alternative universal registry standard at this 
  time.

  

  
 

  

  
Although SOA 
  transformation is what drives a lot of infrastructure spending these days, I 
  do believe that ebXML Registry has a defensible niche in B2B collaboration in 
  specific verticals. Whether there is enough of a vendor ecosystem and 
  innovation around ebXML to sustain it is another matter.

  

  
 

  

  
Somewhat 
  tangential to your inquiry, I may note that if you are accessing the registry 
  from within a Java platform, you may use JAXR (Java API for XML Registries), 
  which is designed to support both ebXML and UDDI information models and 
  API's through a common client interface. However it is unlikely that you will 
  be able to run the same code against both ebXML and UDDI registries without 
  change.

  

  
 

  

  
Regards,

  

  
Daniel

  

  
 

  

  
[1] http://www.infravio.com/products.php#x-reg

  
[2] http://www.sun.com/products/soa/registry/

  
 

  
 

  

  
  

  
From: Jørgen Thyme 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:54 
  PM
To: 
  
Subject: [uddi-dev] ebXML registry and 
  UDDI comparisons

  
I have looked at the specs for v3 
  for the ebXML registry. Although the information model looks more detailed 
  than in UDDI my immediate thinking was that adding my taxonomies in UDDI I can 
  achieve a lot. And there are several implementations of 
  UDDI.

  
 

  
What are your thoughts? Will 
  vendors of UDDI registries add ebXML registry functionality to their existing 
  products? Or will there be a complete new set of registry products 
  coming?

  
 

  
 

  
Best regards / Med 
  venlig hilsen

  
 

  
Jørgen 
  Thyme

  
 

  
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