RE: [wsdm] WS-RF Resources vs. WSDM Resources

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Murray, Bryan P. <>
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2005-11-21T18:25:24+00:00
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RE: [wsdm] WS-RF Resources vs. WSDM Resources
MOWS provides a management model for a Web service that is 
specifically tailored for access from MUWS.

 

Section 2.4 does not help me understand that is what MOWS 
is trying to accomplish. I recommend we remove section 2.4 from MOWS. For that 
matter, I suggest we remove section 2.3 from MUWS.

 

Kirk - I think your new diagram is somewhat better than the 
existing one (its missing some of the blatant lies in the original), 
however it does not help with the confusion issue.

 

I thought we were going to modify the text so we did not 
reference either WSRF-resource (or WS-Resource) or WSDM-resource in both MUWS 
and MOWS. These terms don't help us understand that we are exposing 
manageability of resources using an XML representation of the resource 
accessed through a Web service.

 

Manageability capabilities are no longer associated with an 
interface. Any property, operation, and notification can be associated with zero 
or more manageability capabilities independent of which interface it is 
in.

 

Bryan

From: Wilson, Kirk D [mailto:] 

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:42 AM
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Subject: [wsdm] WS-RF Resources vs. WSDM 
Resources

One of the things we would like to 
do in WSDM 1.1 is to make sure that when the text refers to a resource, it is 
clear whether the reference is to a WS-RF Resource or a WSDM Resource.  The 
fundamental difference between the two, as I believe has been discussed, is that 
a WS-RF Resource is a “logical entity”, well, something abstract, whereas a WSDM 
is anything that is of interest to manage.  As editor of the MOWS spec, I 
started this AI to make sure the text was correct and consistent by looking at 
the so-called “mind-map” in section 2.4 of the MOWS spec.  The most 
significant thing that the diagram does over the corresponding (but slightly 
different diagram in section 2.3 of MUWS Part 1) is to make a Web service 
endpoint a “resource”.  Is that really what we want it to say—isn’t the 
“resource” under MOWS the Web service that is being managed, not its 
endpoint.  At any rate, the use of the “resource” still left open the whole 
question of what is the relationship between a WS-RF Resource or a WSDM 
Resource—which is it?

 

Also, I believe we have eliminated 
the notion of the “manageability capability interface” as a specifically 
specified “thing” that represents 1 manageability capability in recent decisions 
about what a Manageability Capability is. Is that correct, Bryan?  At least, it 
seems to be a subtlety that could be eliminated.

 

So, I have attached another 
mind-map, which, IMHO, better expresses the relationship of Resource, WSDM 
Resource and WS-RF Resource.  By just “Resource”, I refer to one of the 
general definitions of “resource”, e.g.,  IETF, W3C, or an RDF-definition. 
Comments would be appreciated—if only to make sure I’m on the right 
track.

 

This is also a “straw” poll for what 
to do about section 2.4 of MOWS?

 

  
Keep the section and diagram as it 
  current is? 
  
Replace with it with the attached 
  (perhaps with minor tweaks) 
  
Whack the section and forget about 
  having a “mind-map”. 

 

Kirk Wilson
Computer 
Associates

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