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WSFED TC Meeting minutes for November 11, 2008

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2008-11-20T02:27:54+00:00
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WSFED TC Meeting minutes for November 11, 2008
WSFED TC Meeting minutes for November
11, 2008 

        We
are grateful to Nortel for sponsoring this call.

Summary of new Action Items:

        No
new Action Items

1. Call to order

         
      - Verify Minute
Taker   

        
               Mike
Kaiser to take minutes.

   

          
       - Roll
Call 

        

         
      - Status change
(as of end of meeting):

 

           
            - Lost voting
status

           
               
    None

           
            - Gained voting
status

           
               
    Larry Rogers;Lockheed
Martin

 

           
    - Attendance

   
               
             Doug Davis;IBM

         
               
      Mike Kaiser;IBM

         
               
      Michael McIntosh;IBM

         
               
      Anthony Nadalin;IBM

         
               
      Geoff Bullen;Microsoft Corporation

         
               
      Greg Carpenter;Microsoft Corporation

         
               
      Marc Goodner;Microsoft Corporation

         
               
      Don Schmidt;Microsoft Corporation

         
               
      Abbie Barbir;Nortel

         
               
      Lloyd Burch;Novell*

         
               
      Doug Earl;Novell*

         
               
      Don Adams;TIBCO Software Inc.

         
               
      Kent Spaulding;Tripod Technology Group, Inc.

         
               
      Larry Rogers;Lockheed Martin

           
    - Online Chat Room Reminder 

           
            The meeting will
have access to an online chat room at: 

                
       http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/wsfed

2. Reading/Approving minutes from October 28, 2008 [1]

        
       -
Approved unanimously. 

3. TC Logistics 

        
       - Reminder:
  

         
       
      The
TC meets every two weeks. 

 

                
       The next scheduled meeting is now Tuesday,
November 25th, 2008.

           
            Question:  
     Since
this is the week of US Thanksgiving should we 

         
               
              cancel?

                
               
       Consensus was to cancel the 11/25/2008
meeting due 

         
               
              to travel
and holiday conflicts. The next scheduled 

         
               
              meeting
will be in one month. (i.e. Tuesday,

         
               
              December
9th)

         
               
              

                   

4. Issues list [2]  
      

         
      - Actions

           
            - Marc Goodner
to write a draft response for PR0002 and circulate.

                
               Proposed
response posted [3A] See
general discussion text 

         
               
      below for responses.

         
              - Don
Schmidt to create and distribute a draft response for PR0002

                
               See
general discussion text below for responses.

         
               -
Mike McIntosh to create and distribute a draft response for 

           
               
    PR0003.

           
               
    Done see
reference [4].  See general discussion text below

         
               
      for responses.

         
              Comment
rules from OASIS were posted to the chat room for discussion.

         
              (Copied
here) "Comments from non-TC Members must be collected via 

         
               
      the TCs archived public comment facility;
comments made through 

         
               
      any other means shall not be accepted. The
TC must acknowledge 

         
               
      the receipt of each comment, track the comments
received, and 

         
               
      publish to its primary e-mail list the disposition
of each 

         
               
      comment at the end of the review period."

         
              Based
on this there is consensus amongst the team that the minutes, 

         
              e-mail
archive postings, etc... satisfy this requirement for response.

         
              Therefore
all three of these Actions should now be considered closed.

        
       - Issues
               
  

        
               i015
- Non-standardized Normative References 

         
               
      http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsfed/issues/Issues.xml#i015

                
       

           
               
    WS-MEX and WS-RT are now both publically available

                
               W3C
Member Submissions. WSFED Spec references to these 

           
               
    should be updated accordingly. 

           
               
    Applied in
working draft. Should be complete and posted today.

         
               
      ACTION: Status
Pending. Will change to Review draft with

         
               
               
      these reference updates is posted later today

         
               
               
      (November 11th, 2008).

           
               
    Note though not explicitly stated in the meeting,
here

           
               
    are the publically referenced URL's for these two

           
               
    W3C Member Submissions.

           
               
    http://www.w3.org/Submission/2008/SUBM-WS-MetadataExchange-20080813/

           
               
    http://www.w3.org/Submission/2008/SUBM-WSRT-20080812/

        
       

         
              PR0001:
Revise federation metadata document structure to eliminate 

         
               
              ambiguities
and improve interoperability[7]

         
               
      Did not apply
the edit exactly as proposed. In the proposal 

           
               
    there were singular forms that already existed in
plural.  

           
               
    Changes reused these pre-existing constructs.  The
schema

           
               
    upload matches the document 08. The Schema examples
still

           
               
    need to be converted to exemplars in the document.
 

           
               
    The changes reflected in the current revised draft
editions

           
               
    [5] and [6] should be looked at closely

         
               
      STATUS: Update status to Review. This status
change was

         
               
               
      overlooked previously. (See minutes from 10/14).
               
               
       

         
               
               
       
              

         
              PR0003:
Should WS-Federation references to XML DSig be 

         
               
              updatedto
       Edition
2? [9]

         
               
      

                
               Changes
being cut into specification draft by editor. Version

         
               
              with updates
should be posted later today (Nov 11th, 2008).

         
               
      STATUS: Change to Review when posted.  

         
               
 

           
            Issue i027 -
Need capability for services to describe requestedclaim types

           
               
    

                
               Proposal
approved unanimously.  Changes being cut into 

           
               
            specification
to be posted later today. (Nov. 11th, 2008)

           
            

 

                
               STATUS:
Change to review when posted.

           
            

                NEW
ISSUES:  
              

         
              None
raised at today's meeting.  
     

        

6. Other business 

         
         
    We need to
have another public review cycle due to substantive changes.

         
              Discussion
around whether or not we should initiate an electronic

         
              CD and
PR ballot prior to the next meeting.  

         
              The concern
was raised that if we start another PR immediately, we might

         
              be put
in a situation where we find another small comment or two during

         
              PR requiring
another cycle.  In the end, consensus was that we should

         
              allow
everyone the next four weeks until the next meeting to really take

         
              a good
hard look at the specification with all the changes.  Everyone

         
              should
push to post any comments with proposed solutions as soon as 

         
              possible.

         
              Marc will
push to get all the updates posted by today (Nov 11th, 2008)

         
              to maximize
everyone's time for review.  The plan is that at the 

         
              next scheduled
meeting (Tues. December 9th, 2008) everyone should be

         
              ready
to vote on Committee Draft and Public Review Approval.

        

7. Roll Call Additions 

                One
addition to roll.

8. Adjournment 

        
       Meeting
adjourned. 

  

[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200810/msg00011.html

[2] http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsfed/issues/Issues.xml

[3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200811/msg00001.html

[4] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200810/msg00010.html

[5] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29643/ws-federation-1.2-spec-ed-08.doc

[6] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29644/ws-federation.xsd

[7] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200808/msg00001.html

[8] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed-comment/200807/msg00000.html

[9] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsfed/email/archives/200809/msg00004.html
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