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RE: [wss] *SAML concerns* ?

From
Tim Alsop <>
Date
2004-03-09T14:24:17+00:00
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RE: [wss] *SAML concerns* ?
Title: *SAML concerns* ?

Simon,

 

Within Oasis SSTC we are working on SAML 2.0. As part of 
this version of SAML we plan to have some Kerberos support included. Since the 
Kerberos protocol helps protect against many network security concerns, such as 
message replay it will be a useful and complementary technology when used 
for SSO with SAML.

 

Thanks, Tim.

From: Simon, Hank [mailto:] 

Sent: 09 March 2004 12:56
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Subject: [wss] *SAML concerns* 
?

Folks - 

We are interested in exploring a SAML 
pilot. Our Corporate Security Department has some reasonable concerns. My take 
is that they are asking for help to understand the implications and to generate 
a policy to mitigate these and other risks.

I don't think there is a question about 
SAML for SSO. Mitigating attacks on SAML are the concern. 
The concerns seem to focus on Replay, 
Man-in-the-Middle, and HTTP referrer. The solution appears to be a 2-factor 
approach using SSL and unilateral authentication.

Here is a recent paper that highlights 
some of these concerns. Also, if you could break a SAML implementation (other 
than social engineering), what other attacks would you try? In other words, what 
additional concerns should we anticipate?

Any opinions appreciated. 

Thanx, 
Hank Simon 

 -----Original 
Message----- 

I'm starting to understand all of this 
better. However, with all "new" technologies there are new concerns.  I've 
started doing some reading on SOAP/SAML and I'm worried that if not implemented 
correctly there could be large scale security concerns.  The attached 
document is a little over my head, by I'll read it a couple more times.  
Please review it and pay close attention to the risks associated with section 7 
"Attacks".

<<SAML.pdf>>
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