RE: [wss] WSS OTP-Token subcommittee proposal

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RE: [wss] WSS OTP-Token subcommittee proposal
I’ll comment here from the
perspective of the RSA/OTPS work and potential submission.  We’re
not proposing to submit a technology in the sense of a particular OTP method,
but rather of a candidate OTP profile description that is intended to be
method-neutral and able to support authenticator devices operating in
time-based, counter-based, and/or challenge-response modes.  If and as
this is contributed into OASIS and related work is progressed there, I would
expect any references within the resulting OASIS work to be non-normative. 

 

The question of adopting UsernameToken for
this purpose is a good one.  When we started investigating technical
approaches for integrating OTPs as a means to authenticate WSS requests, this
was just the approach we had in mind.  On further consideration, however,
we identified needs to represent various ancillary information (e.g., PINs,
challenges, counters, identification of specific devices instead of or along
with named users, OTP generation algorithm identifiers, device
resynchronization facilities) in order to provide comprehensive support for OTP-based
methods.  This suggested an approach which draws from and adapts concepts
introduced in UsernameToken, but it wasn’t clear how this ancillary data
would be appropriately represented within UsernameToken as written.

 

--jl

 

From: Anthony Nadalin
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005
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To: Granqvist, Hans

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Subject: Re: [wss] WSS OTP-Token
subcommittee proposal

 

The proposal below list 2 technologies, I assume that
these technologies would not be part of the submission but non normative
references ? Also is there a way that the UsernameToken profile be adopted to
accommodate as there is a lot of overlap here.

Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122

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    [wss] WSS
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(This
is a follow up to the issue I brought up August 9 

regarding a WSS One-Time Password token profile
sub 

committee, see minutes of call under "5.
Other business"   

--Hans)

Proposal

========

RSA Security and VeriSign would like to propose a
new work 

item for the WSS TC, defining a WSS profile for
use of One-

Time Password (OTP) authentication.  The
intended goal is 

to accommodate a broad range of OTP technologies
within the 

WSS framework.  While IPR claims may apply to
underlying OTP 

methods that the profile may support, the
proposers intend 

that the constructions to be defined in the
profile itself 

be unencumbered. 

This profile would be functionally comparable to
other 

profiles defined within the WSS TC, so we believe
it is 

appropriate to standardize within the same forum.
  We 

propose that this work item be pursued in a new
OTP Token 

Profile subcommittee within the WSS TC, as this
should 

facilitate effective discussion of OTP-related
aspects that 

may have limited interest for some TC members.
 The profile 

specification(s) would be the subcommittee's
deliverable to 

the TC. A chair or co-chairs would be selected if
and as the 

subcommittee is formed. 

We anticipate that existing and related work will
be 

available as input for this task.  The
One-Time Password 

Specifications (OTPS, http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/otps)

initiative, coordinated by RSA Security, has
produced several 

drafts of an OTP-WSS-Token specification which
have evolved 

in response to public review and comment.
 Following further 

refinement within the OTPS process, RSA Security
proposes to 

submit a subsequent version of this document as
input to the 

WSS TC.  

VeriSign, in conjunction with the Open
Authentication 

initiative (OATH, http://www.openauthentication.org)
is also 

producing work related to an OTP token profile.
 We anticipate 

that versions of these input documents will be
ready for OASIS 

submission by or during October 2005. We propose
that the 

results of these efforts, along with any other
inputs which may 

be received through the OASIS process, be
harmonized under WSS 

TC auspices.

John Linn, RSA Security

Hans Granqvist, VeriSign

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