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RE: [wss] Revised WSS OTP-Token proposal

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Granqvist, Hans <>
Date
2005-10-03T22:40:34+00:00
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RE: [wss] Revised WSS OTP-Token proposal
Not sure if this is what you ask, but we assume output of 
the effort to be one single profile.

  

  
  From: Anthony Nadalin 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:13 
  PM
To: Granqvist, Hans
Cc: Linn, John; Kelvin Lawrence; 
  
Subject: RE: [wss] Revised WSS OTP-Token 
  proposal

  

  
So is output to be 1 profile or 2 ? any chance to come to agreement on 
  single profile before hand ?

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09/30/2005 11:45 AM

      
        
          
          

            

              
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Yes, these are the two ones we know about so far. 
  Hans

  
  From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Friday, 
  September 30, 2005 8:53 AM
To: Granqvist, Hans
Cc: Linn, John; Kelvin Lawrence; 
  
Subject: RE: [wss] Revised WSS 
  OTP-Token proposal

  
OK so there will be one proposal from Verisign and one 
  proposal from RSA as input documents, right ?

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              WSS OTP-Token proposal

        
          
          

            
            

Hi Tony.

Here is VeriSign's statement on this 
  issue

"VeriSign will contribute a draft version of the OTP token 
  
profile that was developed by VeriSign.  VeriSign agrees that 
  
this contribution will be compliant to the terms and conditions 
that 
  are specified under OASIS.IPR.3.1 of the 'Legacy OASIS 
Intellectual 
  Property Rights (IPR) Policy'. 

Additionally, VeriSign is not aware of 
  any patents or applications 
that may be relevant to the proposed 
  contribution."

Thanks,
Hans

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From: 
  Anthony Nadalin [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:05 PM
To: Kelvin 
  Lawrence
Cc: Linn, John; 
Subject: Re: [wss] 
  Revised WSS OTP-Token proposal

Its still confusing as its 
  states that "RSA Security proposes to
submit a version of this document 
  as
"input to the WSS TC" yet as discussed it was indicated that
this 
  effort is not about a single technology, so I would assume that 
  the
document would be not input but referenced, much like PKI, Kerberos 
  etc.
Also if RSA plans to really submit the document as input what would 
  be
the IPR terms ? Same goes to Verisign ? 

Anthony Nadalin | 
  Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
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Kelvin 
  Lawrence/Austin/IBM@IBMUS

09/27/2005 05:39 
  PM

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Re: 
  [wss] Revised WSS OTP-Token proposal 
 

John and Hans, 
  thank you for taking the time to update and
re-post your proposal. 
  

TC Members, Now that we have a modified proposal in front of 
  us
what do people think? 

I would very much like to see some 
  discussion here so that we
can be effective on the call on Tuesday. 
  

Thanks to those of you that have already posted your views 
  

Cheers
Kelvin

"Linn, John" 
  <> wrote on 09/27/2005
10:48:05 AM:

> 
  Following last week's discussion, we'd like to offer the
following
> 
  revised version of the OTP-Token proposal for consideration by
the 
  TC:
> 
> RSA Security and VeriSign would like to propose a new 
  work
item for the
> WSS TC, defining a WSS profile for use of 
  One-Time Password
(OTP)
> authentication.  The intended goal is 
  to accommodate a broad
range of
> OTP technologies within the WSS 
  framework.  While conceptually
similar
> to the existing 
  UsernameToken profile, this profile would
support
> transport of 
  OTP-related ancillary information (e.g., PINs,
challenges,
> 
  counters, device and algorithm identifiers) in conjunction
with
> 
  authentication requests in order to provide comprehensive
support 
  for
> OTP methods within the WSS/SOAP environment. 
> 
> We 
  anticipate that the profile will accommodate OTP methods
including
> 
  (but not limited to) OATH HOTP, RACF PassTickets, RSA
SecurID(r)
> 
  authenticator token devices, and other candidates that may 
  be
identified
> within the TC. While IPR claims may apply to 
  underlying OTP
methods that
> the profile may support, the proposers 
  intend that the
constructions to
> be defined in the profile itself 
  be unencumbered. 
> 
> This profile would be functionally 
  comparable to other
profiles defined
> within the WSS TC, so we 
  believe it is appropriate to
standardize within
> the same forum. 
   We propose that this activity be undertaken
as a
> general TC 
  work item, comparable to other profiles addressed
by the TC,
> rather 
  than within a distinct subcommittee. It is not the
proposers'
> 
  intent that this work item be incorporated into WSS 1.1, or
that it
> 
  delay TC progress on that release.  
> 
> We anticipate that 
  existing and related work will be available
as input
> for this task. 
   The One-Time Password Specifications (OTPS,
> http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/otps) 
> initiative, coordinated by RSA Security, has produced 
  an
OTP-WSS-Token
> specification which has evolved in response to 
  public review
and
> comment. RSA Security proposes to submit a 
  version of this
document as
> input to the WSS TC.  
> 
  
> VeriSign, in conjunction with the Open Authentication
initiative 
  (OATH,
> http://www.openauthentication.org) 
  is also producing work
related to an
> OTP token profile.  We 
  anticipate that versions of these input
documents
> will be ready for 
  OASIS submission by or during October 2005.
We propose
> that the 
  results of these efforts, along with any other inputs
which may
> be 
  received through the OASIS process, be harmonized under WSS
TC
> 
  auspices.
>  
> 
> John Linn, RSA Security
> Hans 
  Granqvist, VeriSign
> 
> 
> 
  
>
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