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Re: [xml-dev] XML CMM and ISO9000 compliance? - was A standard approach to glueing together reusableXML fragments in prose?

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Mitch Amiano <>
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pop3 <>
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2003-08-27T01:46:13Z
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Re: [xml-dev] XML CMM and ISO9000 compliance? - was A standard approach to glueing together reusableXML fragments in prose?
Actually, for this we have an excellent existance proof that one of the best known XML languages is Turing Complete. I'm sure most of the long time xml-dev people have seen it before, but I'll repeat the URL for your benefit:

http://www.unidex.com/turing/utm.htm

Basically, it demonstrates that XSLT is theoretically capable of computing anything that is computable by a Turing Machine. 

Note that XSLT has been demonstrated to be quite useful, the existance proof having nothing to do with that fact.

Regards,

Mitch

pop3 wrote:

> 
> Umm, reading Knuth got me certain that _assembler_ could be proven and 
> had been proven in math, from which languages like Pascal and Fortan and 
> Cobol  and C can also be, or rather have been proven, and since Java is 
> just C transcendant then I feel that is also shown.
> 
> I do not feel that a markup language with patched on logic capacity can 
> be mathematically shown to be a programming language at all....
> 
> Just my opinion.
> 
> Larry Bradshaw
> 
> At 09:47 PM 8/25/2003 -0400, John Cowan wrote:
> 
>> pop3 scripsit:
>>
>> > Nor can I support folks in a CMM or ISO9000 shop
>> > utilizing XML to any significant degree until they can show that XML 
>> is a
>> > proven best practice, by rigorous scientific proofs.
>>
>> What programming language can you justify by "rigorous scientific
>> [meaning mathematical?] proofs"?  Scheme and Prolog, maybe.
>>
>> -- 
>> A mosquito cried out in his pain,               John Cowan
>> "A chemist has poisoned my brain!"              
>> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
>>         The cause of his sorrow                 
>> http://www.reutershealth.com
>>         Was para-dichloro-                      
>> Diphenyltrichloroethane.                                (aka DDT)
> 
> 
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