Oct 21 con call minutes

["William Z Pope" <zpope@pobox.com>]

BT TC Conference Call of October 21

* Notes, Actions, and Outcome
  a. Next call Tuesday Nov 4th; 9AM pacific, 12 noon easter, 5PM UK
     International number: +44 208 322 2500
     UK number: 0870 410 7815
     Participant Access Code: 558076#
  b. Meeting was not quorate
  c. Membership warnings will be sent out by the chair

* Agenda for Oct 21 call
  1. Charter, current state and delta between versions
     - original
     - As changed at Liberty Corner
     - As amended at Newcastle and included in the specification
  2. Maintenance and Issues discovered in implementation
     Further understand the use of BTP for other than web services
     e.g., Java RMI and JMS. This is based on feedback from
     Choreology customers.
  3. What role can the BT TC play for convergence of business
     transaction management.
     Possibly including WS-C+T, WS-CAF, WS-BPEL, BPSS
  4. Need to fix the website.
     Be able to find everything that the committee had done.
     See all the documents related to the work thru the website.
     Make sure that the work of the committee is adequately reflected
     on the website.
  5. Doug's question: should the TC continue.
  6. FAQ contents
  7. Membership


* Role
** Members
   Tony Fletcher
   Peter Furniss
   Alastair Green
   Alex Ceponkus
   Doug Bunting
   Mark Little
   Bill Pope
   Martin Chapman
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   8 voting members, 10 required for quorum

** Observers
   Bob Haugen

* Membership
  Need to clean the membership roles to reflect current active membership.
  Send warnings to appropriate persons.
  E.g., Pyounguk Cho, no longer with IONA; Chase with OASIS and IONA

* What role can the BT TC play for convergence of business
  transaction management

  Alastair:
  There is a need for convergence.
  The only work that can achieve acceptance on its own is the
  BEA/IBM/Microsoft specifications which are not in any standards body.

  Doug:
  There is a need for convergence.
  We have met our charter.  Under new rules a TC can not expand its charter.

  Discussion:
  There is a definite need for convergence, can this TC drive it.  Is there
  any mechanism within OASIS or other existing standards bodies that CAN
drive
  convergence for business transactions or any web services standards.

** Historical Discussion
   Doug: what is the advantage of the protocol agnosticism of BTP in light
of
   the depiction of web services as itself transport agnostic.

   Peter: not all legacy applications want to use SOAP or SOAP headers.


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