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MEETING MINUTES -- 02 NOV 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE

From: Seraphim Larsen
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From: "Larsen, Seraphim L" <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:36:50 -0700

MEETING MINUTES -- 2 Nov 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** 


** Agenda ** 
------------ 
    0. Scribe for today's minutes 

    1. Roll call

    2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html

    3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest
updates)
        - PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
        - CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
        - zipped source:
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html

    4. Tables
        - accessibility
            - original note:
 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html
            - follow-up:
 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html
        - dita features for tables:
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html

    5. Recommendation on namespaces
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html

    6. List issues: 
        - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
        - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image

    7. DTD cleanup
        - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some
options)

    8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover
today)
        - OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre)
        - XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre)
        - DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos)
        - OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad)

    9. AOB? 

    - Schedule reminder:
        - 17 Aug 2004 
                - First major milestone -- complete first draft of
                  first section and send out for review.  
                - Begin review of 1st section.
        - 07 Sep 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin
                  review of 2nd section.
        - 28 Sep 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin
                  review of 3rd section.  
        - 19 Oct 2004
                - Complete review/revision of 3rd section; beginning
                  of final review
        - 02 Nov 2004
                - Complete final review
        - 16 Nov 2004
                - Release 1.0 spec to OASIS


** Minutes ** 
------------- 
    0. Scribe for today's minutes 
        - Seraphim is back on board to take the minutes.

    1. Roll call
        - 12 of 18 -- we do have a quorum
        - Roll Call to be posted to the TC List separately.

    2. Review/approve minutes from 12 October
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00004.html
        - Minutes approved.

    3. Specification status (watch the list for notices of latest
updates)
        - PDF:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00000.html
        - CHM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00001.html
        - zipped source:
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00002.html

        - Action Item for everyone -- Provide comments to Michael
          Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide
          comments to Michael by Friday (Action Item 063).  Then
          Michael will have the next iteration ready for the 11/9
          meeting (Action Item 064).
            - We will continue this process till we are closer to
              completion.
            - We will shoot for 12/15 for final release, but Michael
              thinks it could possibly take till mid-January.

    4. Tables
        - Accessibility
            - original note:
 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00009.html
            - follow-up:
 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00003.html
            - Discussion -- 
                - Don -- Liason with DocBook -- we need to keep up
                  a relationship here.  It would be nice if both
                  DocBook and DITA had the same approach to handling
                  CALS/HTML formats for tables.
                - Michael Priestley -- Are we deferring any
                  functionality currently used by IBM, to the 2.0
                  release?
                - Don -- No, we are deferring only the accessibility
                  issued mentioned in the msg00009 above.  
                - Don -- For 1.0, Don proposes that we postpone
                  discussion of the issue of accessibility.  DocBook
                  will take a while to implement this anyway.
            - Proposal -- 
                - Don proposes to defer the accessibility issue to
                  post-1.0; we will track it together with DocBook
                  at that point.
            - Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation.

        - DITA features for tables:
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00009.html
              -- This basically shows the differences between the
              DITA model and the Exchange model.
            - Discussion -- 
                - Let's strike @expanse from this list, since we'll
                  inherit @pgwidth from the Exchange model.
                - Let's add %id-atts to <entry>
            - Action Item for Don -- Don will edit the msg00009 to
              incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and
              send out again as a new proposal (to be decided by
              ballot, or at next meeting with no discussion --
              discussion to take place by email).  (Action Item
              065).

    5. Recommendation on namespaces
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00015.html
        - Proposal -- Bruce Esrig proposes that the message
          discussed here, with the modifications indicated below, be
          adopted.
            - (Item 1) Attribute *will* be renamed to
              DITAArchVersion
            - (Item 2) The OASIS TC will *recommend* this design
              pattern for all shells. 
        - Decision -- Proposal accepted by acclamation.

    6. List issues: 
        - terminology: "vocabulary" or "document type"
        - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image

    7. DTD cleanup
        - (Oct 5: France Baril will investigate and return with some
options)

    8. Announcements (will post this info to the list if we don't cover
today)
        - OASIS Forum in New orleans (Lapeyre)
        - XML 2004 posters (Lapeyre)
        - DITA track at Content Management conference (Hackos)
        - OASIS Symposium: The Future of XML Vocabularies (Harnad)

    9. AOB? 


** Summary of Decisions ** 
-------------------------- 

    - Decision -- Defer the accessibility issue to post-1.0; we will
track it
      together with DocBook at that point.  (See Item 4 in minutes.)

    - Decision -- Make changes to the namespace recommendations, as
      indicated in the minutes.  (See Item 5 in minutes.)
        

** Action Required ** 
--------------------- 
    017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general
        extensibility and the creation of new elements not
        necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open
        (not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 

    021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion
        of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of
        7/20/04. 

    022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,
        as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still
        pending as of 7/20/04. 

    036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA
        namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page
        that describes what DITA does, etc.   Still pending 8/17/04.

    040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create
        an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order
        to create the 1.0 spec.  Create a list of these items and
        post it in the Documents area of the website.  >>> This will
        be ongoing.

    043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to
        the introduction.  <<< Done as of 11/2/04.

    051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute
        and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms).

    052 Don Day, 9/14/04 -- Is anyone other than IBM actually using
        the scale attribute? Don to ask on dita-users forum; get
        usage info for next week's discussion. <<< We haven't heard
        from anyone else, so we'll assume that IBM is the primary
        user that has significant legacy usage of the @scale
        attribute.  Closed 9/28/04.

    054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary
        (terminology discussion) to the list.

    055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list.
        Ongoing.

    058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC.
        10/12/04 -- Need to write up the notes.

    059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to keep
        the full set of features for mitigating table migration.

    060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of
        Nokia's specialization process Closed today: Indi Leepa
        comments. Have been transmitted to DITA user group. <<< Done
        as of 11/2/04.

    061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- reply to image align and tm notes in
        dita-users.

    062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for
        specialized schemas once developed (Indi recommends Jarno to
        work with him)

    063 All, 11/02/04 -- Provide comments to Michael
          Priestley on the draft over the next week -- provide
          comments to Michael by Friday 11/5/04.  (See item 3 in the
          11/02/04 minutes for URLs).

    064 Michael Priestley, 11/02/04 -- Incorporate comments into
        draft specification; prepare new iteration for 11/9
        meeting.

    065 Don Day, 11/02/04 -- Don will edit the msg00009 to
        incorporate the changes based on our discussion, and send
        out again as a new proposal (to be decided by ballot, or at
        next meeting with no discussion -- discussion to take place
        by email).


** Issues to be Resolved ** 
--------------------------- 
    005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual
        introduction be?  >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.

    006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in
        a separate specification in order to make it easier to use
        in other XML applications that otherwise have no
        relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing.

    008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues.  New as
        of 8/31/04.

    009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda
        for future discussion.

    010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based
        architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this
        into the "Best Practices" document.

    011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of
        graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
        Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,
        which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.
    

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